• hglman@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Wait so your plan is to wait for the republican party to become progressive?

    • Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Wait before voting 3rd party? Yes. Our voting system needs to change before that is a viable option.

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        11 months ago

        There is no 3rd party. Voting for a third party candidate is no different than just not voting at all. The only message that you are sending is that you are fine with whoever actually ends up winning.

        You want to voice your dissatisfaction with the system? Then vote vote more, not less. The reason you get nothing but shit candidates is because you aren’t voting in the elections that actually matter the most… the small, local elections determine who is running your schools, who is running your elections, they determine who is at the base of the power pyramid. It may seem like taking out one bit of support here or there does nothing, but one drop of water doesn’t make a flood. It takes constant, repeated drops to saturate the earth and let other drops build up.

        Venice is sinking into the mud. The ground it sits on is unstable and slowly shifts out from below it, and it continues to sink. They are fighting to keep it up. They poor tons of money into jacking it up and trying to stabilize it, but it just keeps sinking. You want change? Be the sifting sand. Liquify the particles around you and remove the base that supports these shitty parties. And, you can’t do that if the people you vote for don’t win.

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          11 months ago

          I am voting for people who support changing it. Ranked choice voting is definitely being pushed where I live, which would be great because many Democrats have to use their votes in a way that does not accurately represent their actual preferences.

          Additionally, since Republicans have a closed primary (which is scummy as fuck) many Democrats have to register as Republican just to have any say in who will run our government.

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          11 months ago

          Crazy how you’re so wrong with your considerable experience seeing a joke in the mirror every day.

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      11 months ago

      Dems and Reps aren’t the only groups that can get things done, and I’m not talking about voting third party.

      Electoralism is purely harm reduction for leftists, no leftist policy will get through in a 2-party Capitalist state. Instead, change must happen at the grassroots level.

      Organize, unionize, protest, all that good stuff.