• Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Neoliberals have no comradery and see each other as competition. They look for opportunities to tear each other down instead of supporting each other, thus making their community weaker as a whole.

    Whereas the communists support one another and seek to help build their community as a whole, thus leading to a stronger, more supportive community.

    “The animal species, in which individual struggle has been reduced to its narrowest limits, and the practice of mutual aid has attained the greatest development, are invariably the most numerous, the most prosperous, and the most open to further progress.”- Peter Kropotkin

    TLDR- Sucks that you don’t have our level of solidarity, libs.

    • Comp4 [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      We are united in spirit and purpose, comrade. We are one well-oiled shitposting machine. For every poster that falls, ten posters will take their place.

    • StalinForTime [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      100%.

      When I’m forced to spend any amount of social time with liberals, especially the more reptilian ones you encounter in academia and managers, especially if they have an explicitly perverted ideology of neoliberalism, and even when they are suposedly best friends, I recognize after not much time that they actually don’t like eachother. They hate eachother. They are jealous, petty and envious. They are all insecure. Their understanding of generosity and sympathy is absolutely reducible to a market relation of exchange for profit in purely inhuman sense, and not even in a progressive social sense of reciprocity. They often dontunderstand that friendship can be good in and of itself, perhaps because they are so alienated and toxic that they’ve forgotten what actual friendship is, and that love is not reducible to material or economic dependence (fantastic scene which shows this in season 3 of Succession, in Italy between Tom and Greg).

      I’ve had many ex-liberal friends become communists just because they were so alienated by their liberal friends that they started hanging out more with communists and were like “oh damn these people actually like eachother and don’t try to demean eachother”.

      Almost all the communists I know who come to hate eachother do so cos of theoretical and practical political beefs.

      • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        a coworker explained to me that he was suing his sister in court because he loaned her money for rent and she hadn’t paid him back. I took a full 30 seconds to respond because I couldn’t fathom treating anyone, leave alone family, so transactionally. it’s not like he needed the money - he was just willing to trash his sister’s life because he felt entitled to.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Yeah, this is probably one of the best online communities I’ve ever participated in

      Much better than ceaselessly arguing about which Fallout game was the best

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    I migrated from Lemmy.world just so I can upvote communists bullying liberals lmao

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    They’re conditioned to and glorify negativity, is what it is. I get downvoted for the most innocuous shit when I post or comment in self-proclaimed “liberal” instances.

    I’ve been commenting frequently on y’alls posts since you federated. I’ve not received a single downvote here. Not one.

    They find even-keeledness and agreeability sinister. That says a lot.

  • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
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    It’s actually really nice seeing these high numbers. It feels like Lemmy is getting a lot of traffic and is really active! It’s just a shame that in its current state, the smaller communities get buried and are basically invisible to the front page.

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        Like, we all know each other and have an ACTUAL COMMUNITY. Of course we do.

        These liberals see each other as nothing, remember nobody, and build no unique culture of their own. They have no relationships with each other. They don’t get it. We actually like each other. I care about people here you liberal losers.

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          @randint@lemm.ee I want you to read this.

          You need to understand that we’ve all been here 3 years already, we know each other, care about each other, have a real community with a real unique culture forged through bonds and laughs and drama and dumb shit. We have an actual community, not just a bunch of people that don’t know each other who press updoot and downdoot and generally just see one another as faceless individuals. We trust each other and genuinely like each other.

          I genuinely hope that you can create something like it and come to care about the other posters around you in time. You should try to. Build something more meaningful than a reddit clone where everyone treats everyone like a bunch of faceless anons, build a real community.

  • Wheaties [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    OK, fuck, we need a new set of standards for intra-fediverse dunking. If we carry on as is, a lot of instances are gonna cut us off, justifying it with accusations of brigading and vote manipulation. Aaand… that’s kinda a pretty valid reason.

    Now, you might be thinking, “Well, they’re gonna cut us off anyway, so what?” Yes. For some instances, they’ll just be looking for an excuse to do what they wanted to do anyway. But. Some instances, that otherwise wouldn’t, will probably follow suit with the good reason. We shouldn’t just hand them that good reason. So, we need to be respectful and polite. How so? Well,

    • One. Don’t link directly to arguments in the fediverse. Hexbear users should stumble upon them naturally or not at all. So…

    • B …if you see a particularly dunk-worthy post, take a screenshot of it. You probably wanna check how your programme and/or operating system handles that and scrub any pesky meta-data out of it as need be. While you’re at it, COVER THE USERNAMES. Yours and theirs. Dunking is all well and good, but shaming makes hard feelings and resentment. We don’t want to shame our neighbors, we want to have a dialog with them. edit: just be carefull about metadata, nevermind the other bit

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    i like how they think the fking Chinese or Russian Cyberinfluence division or whatever would spend any time or effort on a fking site that has 1000 active users at most

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      Many years ago, before I had even discovered /r/chapotraphouse, I used to post on /r/geopolitics. Of course as you can imagine the self-important nerds there would accuse people left and right of being Chinese/Russian bots. I once asked why the fuck the MSS or FSB or whatever would spend their time shitposting on a sub with like a thousand users and they claimed that “real international relations experts post here regularly” and then I got banned.

      Worth it.

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        at least when we were on reddit it made at least a little sense, since you were connected to a larger site

        the ironic thing was that user survey on reddit that found the most active city on reddit was some US Airforce base lol

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      Yeah, our FBI guy is holding on by the skin of his teeth. They keep trying to re-assign him to figuring out if ChatGPT is a Marxist. Ted, if you’re reading this, we’re pulling for you bro. We’re always here if you need us!

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          Everyone talks about it like it was a big one, but the subreddit was home to so many different nominally leftist tendencies and a lot of the more reactionary elements needed to be purged before this community could become what it is now. Can you imagine this place if it were full of bad faith devil’s advocates in every thread about trans issues?

          So that’s why I view that struggle session as necessary. It served as a honeypot that lured all of the most bigoted users into exposing themselves at once. It’s also a moment in our history that we can point to and say that this issue has already been definitively decided. We support trans people here, end of story, and anyone who doesn’t like it can eat a quick ban without a second thought. On any other forum you’d get endless relitigation and cliques arguing that their buddy’s ban was undeserved, but here? Crab party, baby. No drama, no arguing - just crabs.

          crab-party crab-party crab-party

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            I mean, it was big in the sense that it spread over dozens of threads and hot relitigated every couple of months before the mod team came on board with purging them on sight. otherwise, I agree. it was good and necessary, and this site wouldn’t be the place it is without them. as a trans person, this is the only website I feel totally comfortable being out on that isn’t an exclusively trans space and it’s entirely because we successfully changed the site culture. it gives real bloomer vibes on the capacity of people to grow and change.