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    this is gonna go nowhere per usual, the very idea of working in your dreams is fucking horrifying. black mirror type shit.

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      just a clickbaity headline. Obviously any time spent doing work will count as work hours, and employers don’t need futuristic tech to push for more of those. So nothing is changing in that regard.

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        You put a lot more trust in our corporate lords and masters than I do.

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          there’s no trust in my statement. The incentives to increase work hours already exist, and even if it’s not snake oil, this tech won’t change that. A work hour is a work hour regardless if the worker is sitting down or in a lucid dream.

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    You ever have a crazy intense epic dream and come up with this awesome new idea that you think will change the world, and after a minute or two of being awake and coming to your senses, you realize how utterly idiotic you sound? There’s going to be a lot of that.

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      When I was twelve, I woke up convinced that the color yellow was called yellow, because humans had figured out that word was intrinsically linked to that color.

      I was devastated my “epiphany” stopped making sense after I fully woke up.

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      Have you ever had a dream that you, you had, your, you could, you’ll do, you wants, you could do so, you’ll do, you could, you want, you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

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      Probably. I have been able to lucid dream since I was a kid, if we’re talking about knowing you are dreaming and controlling aspects of the dream.

      It’s still just your own brain, and if you’re controlling it you’re actually being less outside-the-box creative than in the dreams where you’re not.

      If you’re so in control you’re able to force it to do work tasks then what’s going to be generated will probably be lower quality than waking tasks, not higher.

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      What do you mean using pizzas for steering wheels is a bad idea!? I’m gonna make billions!

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      I wrote a hit song with the Rolling Stones and was able to sing the whole thing when I woke up. It was gone by lunch time.

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        This would actually be insane for music creation. The few times I had dreams where I was playing an instrument, it was pure fire

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      And no tooling will certainly improve the coding abilities. Especially since I remember all the code, including the changes others made in the time since I last looked at it.

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    I sometimes lucid dream, something tips me off that it’s not real, and then I can take some control. Mostly I like flying, but sometimes I go full crimefighting superhero.

    Realizing you are in a dream world and deciding to work, is like winning a billion dollars and deciding to spend it all on a nice car somehow. What a boring waste.

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    If you think LLMs hallucinate too much, wait till you check out code literally written during hallucinations.

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      I posted this in another comment, but during uni I did in fact write code in lucid dreams. A friend can vouch for a specific time when I woke up from sleep during an all nighter, to fix a very specific bug (which I just remembered, we didn’t even know it existed), then went back to sleep. On another occasion, I designed a recursive path-finding algorithm to replace djikstra’s algorithm, all in my sleep.

      It definitely can be done (though I doubt it could be done consistently and without actually imagining shit up), but it really shouldn’t be done, I really doubt I was really resting while doing that.

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      I was sitting here thinking how useful a loop to count bananas before running out of time and losing my shoes and or pants before realizing I’m in a large college auditorium and everyone is laughing at me would be!

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    I have a lot of lucid dreams, and they’re often in a specific city, and sometimes I even go to work in these dreams. I haven’t lived in a city and worked in an office in over 10 years, so it’s some kind of reverse escapism. I can always leave, and weird stuff happens anyway. I wouldn’t trust any of my work output there.

    But to let a company try to take over your dreams and never let you escape, you need to stand up and fight that shit. Put them in a never-ending nightmare where nobody gives them money.

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      Yeah, seriously.

      This just sounds like a way to squeeze more work out of a person.

       

      Work/life balance? What’s that…

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        Well if i could work well sleeping and then live my life while awake that’d be pretty sweet.

        Doubt that’s what a lot of company owners would want but that is maybe the only plus side of this.

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          Third comment in this post about this from me, but I’ve done university work while lucid dreaming, solved bugs we didn’t even know existed, stuff like that. I don’t think you rest as much while lucid dreaming, I’m pretty sure I built up fatigue at many points in my life just due to how much lucid dreaming I was doing. I now avoid lucid dreaming, and have started losing the ability to do it frequently (which frankly is a blessing). I feel more well rested now than I did when I lucid dreamt a lot. No way this idea doesn’t just leave you completely tired after a while.

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    This is stupid for a wide variety of reasons, but one of the more interesting ones is that text is notoriously inconsistent in dreams.

    A very common “reality check” to see if you’re dreaming is to look at a clock or text, look away, and look back. The time/text will nearly always change.

    So explain to me how they expect COMPUTER CODE to work?

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      I became obsessed with lucid dreaming after seeing the Waking Life movie, around when I started high school, and yeah that’s one of the things I used to induce them. Kept a dream journal and had a digital watch that I would always look at, light switches etc. I did have lucid dreams but never got really good at it and eventually just neglected the practice… about when I started having real life sex LOL

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        Ha funny how that works.

        I never got into dream journaling but frequent reality checks and practicing meditation was pretty effective for me. 100% of the time when I wake up from a lucid dream I get bad sleep paralysis where I feel like I’m suffocating, so I kinda fell out of the habit.

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          i regularly have lucid dreams but i’m only able to turn it into a nightmare by spawning a demon or falling from a roof. and i get a sleep paralysis every single time. this happens about three times almost every night. it’s getting pretty lame by now.

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          Well I never had that… that’s disturbing. I’d probably have about a lucid dream per week and it’s weird how it lost it’s novelty. Same thing happened with DMT for me where I more or less have the same trip every time.

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    If this is the same startup I read about a while ago… Well the technology doesn’t actually exist. There’s a vague suggestion that maybe lucid dreams could be induced through techniques that are not properly understood yet, and that’s about it.

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      Well FWIW there are somewhat reproducible techniques, I’ve used them, but I couldn’t tell you how I’ve used them if my life depended on it (honestly, brain chemical imbalances or fatigue might be a prerequisite). I actually got tired of lucid dreaming and started avoiding certain positions in bed, and started shifting around if I felt myself getting close to jumping into a lucid dream during hypnagogia.

      I also worked on university assignments during lucid dreams, solved countless bugs in my code while asleep, a friend can even attest to it since one time I instantly woke up to solve a specific bug and then went back to sleep, with him right next to me (all nighters woo hoo).

      It can be done. It really shouldn’t be done. The reason why I grew tired of lucid dreaming is because I didn’t feel like I was actually resting at all. That disconnect and peace that falling asleep gives you, it’s not there for me while lucid dreaming (at least not if I jumped in through hypnagogia).

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        Yeah, unfortunately my weak brain instantly wakes up as soon as I realize I’m in a dream, the rare times it happens

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          Focus on something up close in your dream, like the texture of a wall or table, it’ll pull you back into the dream. Works for me!

          The other suggestion is to spin around, but I did that to stay in a dream once and noclipped through the floor. Which woke me up.

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            I was often sent flying with no way to come back down. Went up fast. Not great for anxiety. The “focusing on stuff” trick does work, though if I overdid it I also woke up because I tried engaging my senses too much.

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      There’s a vague suggestion that maybe lucid dreams could be induced through techniques that are not properly understood yet, and that’s about it.

      Where can I invest?

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    Lucid dreaming is such a cool concept. The ability to mentally experience things in a truly boundless environment, untethered by laws of physics or standards of reality.

    Why the fuck would you want to waste that experience on work?

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      I feel also the concept of “work” is viewed from employer/employee perspective, but I’d argue it should be viewed more from "useful” development one. Like reading a fiction book vs a non-fiction.

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    I already work in my dreams. I’m always having dreams about going back to jobs from my past. God owes me money or something.