Maybe. Just like every year, maybe. It’s a complete roll of the dice on how well anyone drafted perform.
Personally there are far too many flags from him and his camp that would make me excited about him being #1 overall. Not even drafted and he wants a % of the franchise? Not even drafted and he might not go to the team that drafted him? Emotional immaturity?
My biggest fear with him, including the above is the fact he has wildly inconsistent games.
90% completion vs Stanford, 64% vs ASU, to 75% vs CO, to 56% vs UofA, to 62% vs ND, 70% vs Utah, 57% vs Cal, 77% vs W, to 55% vs O, to 73% vs UCLA.
I don’t know why he’s so inconsistent, but that scares me as a fan. You’d like to see consistency or development but this is wild
Personally there are far too many flags from him and his camp that would make me excited about him being #1 overall. Not even drafted and he wants a % of the franchise? Not even drafted and he might not go to the team that drafted him? Emotional immaturity?
dude, i feel like i have to write out a whole list that i can copy and paste whenever someone brings up caleb’s character concerns explaining why it’s all bullshit. something like:
no, he never said he wants a percentage of the franchise, that was a bullshit florio rumor.
oh, he didn’t mock max duggan for crying, he was mocking the difference in reaction between him and max crying
oh and no, he didn’t say he would return to college if a bad team picks number 1 either. that was his idiot dad.
Oh ok, let me just trust you internet stranger. Complete rumor, proof?
Saying he’ll wait until right before the draft to see if he wants to be drafted by a team or not?
He didn’t write “fuck Utah” on his nails before crying with his mom in the stadium while his teammates gave high fives.
He didn’t blame the defense for their loss and the say he wants to go home, lay with his dog and watch shows. Instead of saying I want to get better and grind and fight?
Nah man, a guy that doesn’t want to be a pro unless it’s on his preferred team, a guy that needs his mom while his teammates are out on the field, and a guy that says he wants to be alone after a loss? No.
Saying he’ll wait until right before the draft to see if he wants to be drafted by a team or not?
like i said, that was his dad, and his dad is known for always saying stupid shit. if you’re talking about what he said today about how it’s going to be a “gametime decision” on whether or not he declares, prospects say shit like that all the time. they almost never mean it. MHJ said a similar thing, so i guess we have to stay clear of him too?
Complete rumor, proof?
if a journalist makes an accusation, it should be on them to prove it, lol.
He didn’t write “fuck Utah” on his nails
who seriously gives a shit about this, lmao, god damn…
before crying with his mom in the stadium
it says a lot about you not just as a talent evaluator, but as a person if you think he should be shamed for crying. at least he gives a shit about the game. if anything, i feel like the bears have been missing a quarterback with that kind of raw emotion. mitch has always had that nice guy “aw shucks” attitude, and even though justin is calm, cool, and collected, his lack of emotion can be a downside sometimes.
he wants to go home, lay with his dog and watch shows. Instead of saying I want to get better and grind and fight?
so now the issue is that he actually doesn’t care ENOUGH?
When you’re referring to MHJ, that is a one time comment. If you want to pick and choose that’s your deal, but that’s not how normal people think. Take into consideration what his dad said, did he refute it? Did he say no that’s just my dad or did he say nothing at all. Saying nothing some times means more than saying something.
So you don’t have any proof that was just a rumor. So every thing a journalists reports they have to give you their sources to prove it actually happened. How f’n convenient for you. Since you say it’s a false rumor, it’s up to you to prove it wrong. Innocent until proven guilty so to speak.
Ahhh, this over played argument. There are literally dozens of experts that 100% agree with me. If he wants to cry with his mom over a movie, a book, a commercial, a break up, a death. Go for it. But he is a college athlete that is about to be drafted #1 overall and be the face of the franchise. You’re telling me that you would be 100% fine if after every game that Bryce Young loses he goes up into the stands and cries while the rest of his team leaves? This isn’t about a man crying, this isn’t about a college kid crying, this isn’t about crying in general. It’s about crying as a potential face of a franchise. This is a guy that wrote FUCK UTAH on his nails, then lost, then jumped into the stands to cry with his mom. Hold that shit until later. He’s a man, he’s a young man, but a grown man and I personally would not want to pay a grown man $40m to go cry in the stands because he lost ONE game. If he gets on a losing team that goes 0-17 you think it’s ok for him to cry after every loss, then say “i just want to be alone with my dogs and watch a show”. That’s the leader of a team. You think grown as men in their late 20s and early 30s are going to ok with the leader of their team crying with his mom? GTFOH. AGAIN!!! If he wants to cry with her at home, about anything he wants, that’s a different story. but minutes after the game when players were still on the field he crawled in the stands to cry with his mom about a game. He’s 22 and about to be paid $40m. Says a lot about emotional maturity.
You’re seriously an idiot trying to take context out of this. You think he cried because he cared to much about the sport? No, he’s selfish. He wanted to be a Heisman again, he wanted to get to playoffs again, He He He He. He didn’t talk about how hard it was for his team, he didn’t talk about the team needing a leader…. No, he said HE needs to go home and be alone after crying with his mom because HE lost. He’s got flags my guy.
dude, i really, really don’t have the time to read and respond to this over a college football player on a chicago bears forum. i’m just gonna give you a super shortened response of what i skimmed from your post:
-rumors float around about TONS of elite prospects about them staying in college each year. the same shit happened with stroud if you want another example. i get why caleb wouldn’t want to publicly go against what his dad said, you don’t let business get in the way of family. at the end of the day, it makes zero fucking sense to stay in college, even in the NIL era, so it’s all pointless anyway.
-do you know who mike florio even is? lmao. why the FUCK should anyone believe anything he says that’s not backed by anyone else?
-dude, caleb just turned 22. i’m only 24 and i’ll admit i’m a way different person now than when i was at 21 just a few years ago and just turned old enough to drink. in hindsight, i was clearly just a young dumb girl back then. and i’ll probably feel the same way about myself now when i’m 28 or whatever. a 21 year old is very much a kid to me, so yeah, i don’t have an issue with him getting emotional sometimes. and even if he still cries with his mom when he’s 30, if he can actually put up good passing numbers and become our franchise quarterback, i wouldn’t give a shit. cry your eyes out, caleb.
anyway, this shit is ridiculous, i’m logging out and going to bed. peace.
“Dude, I really, really don’t have time…” followed by several paragraph response. Smh, obviously you do have time.
First you came at me about Williams, so that’s on you. I posted my opinion and you came in all high and mighty like you know so much about this guy… and well it’s just your opinion too.
Agreed it doesn’t make sense to stay in college, but it doesn’t negate the fact that his own father said this, and to your point does he go against family? What if his dad has a large influence on him over other issues, agents, sponsors, contracts, dad says he needs to traded etc. if his dad is vocal now with demands and statements you don’t thing it’s going to be an issue? Flag.
I absolutely know who Florio is, he’s paid journalist for NBC. What’s his ratio of false vs true in reporting? Are you suggesting 80% of what he reports is false? 70% 50%? Do you have any proof he erroneously reports or is this just your overall opinion? By the way, it’s been reported by several other people that it was a request not only by Williams but by Rodgers as well. Not just by florio but if your basis of your argument is strictly the credibility of Florio, I’ll take his word over a 24 year old keyboard warrior
And that’s where you’re so insanely off. He 22 now, turned 22 in November so his first few games of the nfl season he’ll be 22. Meaning his first few losses in the nfl, you’re completely fine with him blowing off media, teammates, fans, and just crying with his mom in the stands? Name on other athlete in the world that has been under 10x the amount of pressure as him and did something similar? Lebron James, at 18 years old, known across the world prior to getting drafted lost his first nba game. Totally fine if after the game he ignored his team and said “I want to be alone with my dog and watch shows?”
Yes, 22 year olds are immature, but a 22 year old about to make $40m and become the face of the franchise have to, HAVE to be mentally built diff.
I can’t wait to see what happens to this guy. He has elite physical tools but going to a bad nfl team and not being successful, does he have the mental fortitude? I don’t think he does
Maybe. Just like every year, maybe. It’s a complete roll of the dice on how well anyone drafted perform.
Personally there are far too many flags from him and his camp that would make me excited about him being #1 overall. Not even drafted and he wants a % of the franchise? Not even drafted and he might not go to the team that drafted him? Emotional immaturity?
My biggest fear with him, including the above is the fact he has wildly inconsistent games.
90% completion vs Stanford, 64% vs ASU, to 75% vs CO, to 56% vs UofA, to 62% vs ND, 70% vs Utah, 57% vs Cal, 77% vs W, to 55% vs O, to 73% vs UCLA.
I don’t know why he’s so inconsistent, but that scares me as a fan. You’d like to see consistency or development but this is wild
dude, i feel like i have to write out a whole list that i can copy and paste whenever someone brings up caleb’s character concerns explaining why it’s all bullshit. something like:
no, he never said he wants a percentage of the franchise, that was a bullshit florio rumor.
oh, he didn’t mock max duggan for crying, he was mocking the difference in reaction between him and max crying
oh and no, he didn’t say he would return to college if a bad team picks number 1 either. that was his idiot dad.
oh and…
Oh ok, let me just trust you internet stranger. Complete rumor, proof?
Saying he’ll wait until right before the draft to see if he wants to be drafted by a team or not?
He didn’t write “fuck Utah” on his nails before crying with his mom in the stadium while his teammates gave high fives.
He didn’t blame the defense for their loss and the say he wants to go home, lay with his dog and watch shows. Instead of saying I want to get better and grind and fight?
Nah man, a guy that doesn’t want to be a pro unless it’s on his preferred team, a guy that needs his mom while his teammates are out on the field, and a guy that says he wants to be alone after a loss? No.
like i said, that was his dad, and his dad is known for always saying stupid shit. if you’re talking about what he said today about how it’s going to be a “gametime decision” on whether or not he declares, prospects say shit like that all the time. they almost never mean it. MHJ said a similar thing, so i guess we have to stay clear of him too?
if a journalist makes an accusation, it should be on them to prove it, lol.
who seriously gives a shit about this, lmao, god damn…
it says a lot about you not just as a talent evaluator, but as a person if you think he should be shamed for crying. at least he gives a shit about the game. if anything, i feel like the bears have been missing a quarterback with that kind of raw emotion. mitch has always had that nice guy “aw shucks” attitude, and even though justin is calm, cool, and collected, his lack of emotion can be a downside sometimes.
so now the issue is that he actually doesn’t care ENOUGH?
When you’re referring to MHJ, that is a one time comment. If you want to pick and choose that’s your deal, but that’s not how normal people think. Take into consideration what his dad said, did he refute it? Did he say no that’s just my dad or did he say nothing at all. Saying nothing some times means more than saying something.
So you don’t have any proof that was just a rumor. So every thing a journalists reports they have to give you their sources to prove it actually happened. How f’n convenient for you. Since you say it’s a false rumor, it’s up to you to prove it wrong. Innocent until proven guilty so to speak.
Ahhh, this over played argument. There are literally dozens of experts that 100% agree with me. If he wants to cry with his mom over a movie, a book, a commercial, a break up, a death. Go for it. But he is a college athlete that is about to be drafted #1 overall and be the face of the franchise. You’re telling me that you would be 100% fine if after every game that Bryce Young loses he goes up into the stands and cries while the rest of his team leaves? This isn’t about a man crying, this isn’t about a college kid crying, this isn’t about crying in general. It’s about crying as a potential face of a franchise. This is a guy that wrote FUCK UTAH on his nails, then lost, then jumped into the stands to cry with his mom. Hold that shit until later. He’s a man, he’s a young man, but a grown man and I personally would not want to pay a grown man $40m to go cry in the stands because he lost ONE game. If he gets on a losing team that goes 0-17 you think it’s ok for him to cry after every loss, then say “i just want to be alone with my dogs and watch a show”. That’s the leader of a team. You think grown as men in their late 20s and early 30s are going to ok with the leader of their team crying with his mom? GTFOH. AGAIN!!! If he wants to cry with her at home, about anything he wants, that’s a different story. but minutes after the game when players were still on the field he crawled in the stands to cry with his mom about a game. He’s 22 and about to be paid $40m. Says a lot about emotional maturity.
You’re seriously an idiot trying to take context out of this. You think he cried because he cared to much about the sport? No, he’s selfish. He wanted to be a Heisman again, he wanted to get to playoffs again, He He He He. He didn’t talk about how hard it was for his team, he didn’t talk about the team needing a leader…. No, he said HE needs to go home and be alone after crying with his mom because HE lost. He’s got flags my guy.
dude, i really, really don’t have the time to read and respond to this over a college football player on a chicago bears forum. i’m just gonna give you a super shortened response of what i skimmed from your post:
-rumors float around about TONS of elite prospects about them staying in college each year. the same shit happened with stroud if you want another example. i get why caleb wouldn’t want to publicly go against what his dad said, you don’t let business get in the way of family. at the end of the day, it makes zero fucking sense to stay in college, even in the NIL era, so it’s all pointless anyway.
-do you know who mike florio even is? lmao. why the FUCK should anyone believe anything he says that’s not backed by anyone else?
-dude, caleb just turned 22. i’m only 24 and i’ll admit i’m a way different person now than when i was at 21 just a few years ago and just turned old enough to drink. in hindsight, i was clearly just a young dumb girl back then. and i’ll probably feel the same way about myself now when i’m 28 or whatever. a 21 year old is very much a kid to me, so yeah, i don’t have an issue with him getting emotional sometimes. and even if he still cries with his mom when he’s 30, if he can actually put up good passing numbers and become our franchise quarterback, i wouldn’t give a shit. cry your eyes out, caleb.
anyway, this shit is ridiculous, i’m logging out and going to bed. peace.
“Dude, I really, really don’t have time…” followed by several paragraph response. Smh, obviously you do have time.
First you came at me about Williams, so that’s on you. I posted my opinion and you came in all high and mighty like you know so much about this guy… and well it’s just your opinion too.
Agreed it doesn’t make sense to stay in college, but it doesn’t negate the fact that his own father said this, and to your point does he go against family? What if his dad has a large influence on him over other issues, agents, sponsors, contracts, dad says he needs to traded etc. if his dad is vocal now with demands and statements you don’t thing it’s going to be an issue? Flag.
I absolutely know who Florio is, he’s paid journalist for NBC. What’s his ratio of false vs true in reporting? Are you suggesting 80% of what he reports is false? 70% 50%? Do you have any proof he erroneously reports or is this just your overall opinion? By the way, it’s been reported by several other people that it was a request not only by Williams but by Rodgers as well. Not just by florio but if your basis of your argument is strictly the credibility of Florio, I’ll take his word over a 24 year old keyboard warrior
And that’s where you’re so insanely off. He 22 now, turned 22 in November so his first few games of the nfl season he’ll be 22. Meaning his first few losses in the nfl, you’re completely fine with him blowing off media, teammates, fans, and just crying with his mom in the stands? Name on other athlete in the world that has been under 10x the amount of pressure as him and did something similar? Lebron James, at 18 years old, known across the world prior to getting drafted lost his first nba game. Totally fine if after the game he ignored his team and said “I want to be alone with my dog and watch shows?”
Yes, 22 year olds are immature, but a 22 year old about to make $40m and become the face of the franchise have to, HAVE to be mentally built diff.
I can’t wait to see what happens to this guy. He has elite physical tools but going to a bad nfl team and not being successful, does he have the mental fortitude? I don’t think he does