Lose out

this sub is seriously going to be so shocked when this team does what every single fanbase of every other team, every single media analyst, every single talking head, every single failed youtuber, every single successful youtuber, every single journalist, every single social media bozo, and every single NFL front office thinks we’ll do and draft a QB.

I’d like them to be competitive and show some growth (prob not gonna happen with Eberlose), but two top 3 picks sounds incredible for (hopefully) the next coach.

I always want the Bears to win.

Win, always win.

I’d be perfectly happy with the Bears losing out at this point though I’ve got a feeling they will win tonight.

Losing out would likely mean they get the 2nd or 3rd overall pick with their own pick and 1st overall with the Panthers.

That guarantees that they can get MHJ and pick a qb/trade down .

Lose. I want Flus gone.

Az wins we need Maye/Williams and MHJ

At this point, I would rather lose and have a better draft position, and then trade out to a QB-needy team.

Harrison isn’t going 1. The first 2 and maybe 3 picks are going to be QBs. If the Bears have the first pick, they are taking Williams.

If Poles is confused and thinks he can ride with Fields then he is trading the first pick to a QB-needy team - if you want MHj, you better hope Belichick breaks form and gives Poles “a haul” to move down 1 or 2 slots for #1.

Why does this sub think AZ isn’t trading out of 2 (if they lose to the Bears) for “a haul” to a QB-needy team?

I’ll always celebrate a win but I’m at the point where I want us to lose every game. Two top 3 picks would be franchise changing. Get Caleb/Maye and MHJ. Or if you end up sticking with Fields, you can trade down and still get MHJ 3.

I’m sorry, I just can’t wrap my head around this shift where now everyone is clamoring for us to take MHJ even if we land at the #1 spot.

Don’t get me wrong, the dude is a complete monster and will be one of the best WRs to come out of the draft in a long while. But are we all forgetting the order of operations here? WRs live and die at the hands of their OC and QB combo. Sure, elite WRs will be good even with bad QB play, but it will never be enough to win games outright. Only the QB position can determine that.

If you don’t believe me, go ask Davante Adams about how he feels leaving Aaron Rodgers for LV. He got the bag he wanted, but can’t handle the fact he isn’t being used to his abilities. He is a nobody when he has guys like O’Connel and Hoyer throwing to him.

Calvin Johnson is arguably the greatest WR we’ve seen in the past 3-4 decades, and he never got a single postseason win his entire career. He was on the Lions when the team went 0-16 in one season.

Deandre Hopkins plummeted after he lost Kyler Murray and now plays for the Titans.

Conversely, guys like Stefon Diggs and A.J. Brown have become stars because they finally had elite QBs throwing to them.

I would support the Bears taking MHJ if they only had 1 first round pick that was in the 7-10 range, meaning most of the higher QB prospects were off the board. But if we are picking at 2 or 1 (especially 1) it has to be a QB, and I don’t think tossing MHJ onto this roster with Fields will make him looks much better than he is now. He’s already got an elite WR in DJ Moore, and the results still aren’t good enough to justify keeping him.

At least, not for the long term, he is in no way a QB you want to pay the bag to by any means. So no reason to waste a prime opportunity to take a swing on a younger rookie, so you can continue to build the roster up without being beholden to a huge QB contract that restricts how much you can spend.

I’d rather have the season over right now and not have to torture myself anymore

This is the worst Bears team in my lifetime. Burn it all to the ground and start over.

Been a Bears fan since 83. At first I was dead set on drafting a QB, but as season progressed, I feel like MHJ is such a generational talent at WR, u cant pass up drafting this guy. Ive seen great seasons by WRs like Marcus Robinson, Alshon Jeffrey, Muhsin Muhammad, Brandon Marshall…but I feel like MHJ has the ability to put together a career to surpass all of those, not just a few good seasons. He reminds me of a Moss type threat. There is something special about him. He would be my number 1 priority. Im not 100% sold on Fields, but I feel like with more improvements on the O line, and with DJ, Kmet, and then MHJ, it would be an offense that could more than hold its own in games. With that being said, the most important things we need are competent coaches, starting with a good head coach!!

I know some of you might be too young to remember but even Randy Moss was not Randy Moss with below-average passers.

If you are too young to remember, you can ignore Moss actual draft position. He is and was the best WR prospect to ever enter the NFL draft. You can combine that with how much better he was as a prospect compared the rest of his contemporaries and you will never see something like this again.

This is a long way for me to say, you need a QB that can pass the ball. There are a lot more good WRs today than there were 20 years ago. For all the talk of MHJ being generational ™ the top prospect in this years HS class is a more highly thought of prospect.