Tank commander
Evaluate --> mutually agree to part ways
He gone. Washington should do a complete rebuild/rebrand under the new owner. They have no identity. Am I alone in that aside from Howell, I can’t name another Washington player? And since I’m total casual, I only know Howell from reading this sub lol. I guess they still have “scary Terry,” but I don’t hear much about him even.
One of Daron Payne or Jon Allen is probably on the PB this year
I am actually kind of surprised he has lasted this long. Rivera in Washington has probably been possibly the most unremarkable head coaching tenure I can recall in the NFL. It’s almost like you forget he even exists at times
I’m not surprised. I think Snyder favored him because he at least got the team to the playoffs in his first season. Scandal after scandal started hitting Snyder and I think he was happy with the stability Rivera brought.
With Harris coming on board, he’s probably going to want to start making his mark on the team, and my guess is in the next few years we’re going to see big changes to the team and organization to rid itself of the Snyder poison.
So I wasn’t surprised to see him retained this long, but I’d certainly be surprised if Harris doesn’t clean house after this season.
I mean, he got them to the playoffs at 7-9 lol. I’m not sure I’d feel good about that year as an owner
It honestly set them back in a way. Had them drafting too late to get a QB and they had to spend 2 years in QB limbo trying Stopgaps that didn’t work and relying on Heincke who is respectable but has a too weak of an arm to bring you over the jump
Set them back because they missed out on drafting who? Mac Jones? Justin Fields? The only worthwhile qb in that draft was picked at the #1 spot
Tua? Herbert?
Dude already had an 0-2 count when he whiffed on Chase Young.
How did it set them back? They were at best a 7-9 talent for the last decade. As a franchise they constantly find single talented players and then surround them with dogshit. Or have insane injury luck with those guys. RGIII, Young, Trent Williams situation, BR Jr getting shot before his season started lol, etc.
If anything he’s kept them on pace without the usual crazy bad luck, especially in a division with 2 contenders during his entire regime. Harris will bring in a reputable retread coach that will be his Doc Rivers of football. I’d be ready for more mediocrity but at least it’ll feel hopeful for a little bit.
Do you think he’ll rebrand the commanders? Even with the name change it feels so Snyder
I also don’t see much point in firing him mid-season, unless things just go completely off the rails and the locker room revolts, but keeping a steady locker room seems to be one of Rivera’s strengths.
It’s a perfect analogue to Norv Turner’s tenure in DC from 1994-2000. Unremarkable, mediocre, never atrociously bad enough to tank, but also keeping his job in part due to the instability of a drawn-out ownership change.
So I did a Turkey Trot today and overheard a conversation about Kirk Cousins. Guy says Cousins is like unsalted mash potatoes. You’re not mad that someone served them but you’re not excited about it either. You’ll probably eat them but won’t be thrilled about it. Rivera is that kind of guy for coaching. He’s not great. But then he has teams that don’t have a lot of talent. His teams don’t overperform their talent level but they don’t seem to ever underperform either. You never really look at his teams and say, “A team that is built this way should be way better than this.” He seems to beat the teams he should beat and loses to the teams you don’t expect him to beat and doesn’t usually get embarrassed badly, avoids controversy and no one really cares.
I mean Washington was a dumpster fire for a while. Rivera isn’t great but he’s a big step up from dumpster fire
They are no better off with Ron then they were with Jay Gruden before him, at least Gruden has made the playoffs with a winning record, it’s the same dumpster fire just a different owner
Quarterback
Hey maybe that’s a step up from the embarrassment we are used to hearing about in Washington?
Absolutely. He brought a shred of respectability to the organization. But not a whole lot more.
That’s what I was thinking. He isn’t terrible just checked out. He could be replaced with someone far worse…
And that’s all Snyder wanted when he hired him.
Snyder desperately needed someone with credibility, since his franchise had none.
That is precisely why he lasted this long.
He’s a less memorable version of Jeff Fisher.
Hey he won a division title, with a losing record which funny enough is the second time it happened to him but he did
I already forget David Culley was the head coach of the Texans. Before the season it was the worst hire I’ve ever seen, and then he actually kind of over performed, but still sucked really bad.
“evaluate” in this instances means “fire”. Why pretend otherwise?
Does “unforeseen circumstances” in this case mean “an alien race steals the power of NFL superstars and challenges Tom Brady and the Looney Tunes to a game, somehow allowing the Commanders into the postseason and preventing an alien Danny DeVito from kidnapping Bugs and Daffy?”
There’s no advantage to saying that right now even if that’s exactly what’s gonna happen. Always leave yourself wiggle room lol
It’s a bit mean to Ron to announce in Week 12 you’ll be firing him at the end of the season
Its a much nicer report than “we aren’t going to fire him yet”
Evaluate is a euphemism for fire
Rivera did a better job stabilizing behind-the-scenes chaos from Dan Snyder than he did as a Head Coach. Overall I think he’s leaving the organization in a better place than he found it. Hope he retires and rides off into the sunset with a positive overall record when all is said and done.
Then why not higher Rivera to just be some PR role, make him the president of the team. Making him the HC just for positive PR is a terrible plan. It just shows that Washington didn’t really care about winning, just saving face
I always see this but what exactly did he stabilize? We’re in a better spot as an organization because Satan is finally gone (which Ron had nothing to do with) but from a purely football operations standpoint we are in the exact same spot we were in when he took over, if not worse. The only saving grace is we may have found an answer at QB.
I always see this but what exactly did he stabilize?
Redditor speak so they sound educated on the topic. Dude is the HC not the PR team.
I wouldn’t say that because the media and even Ron himself have echoed the same sentiment. I’m just confused where it’s coming from because literally the only reason I have any more hope for this organization now than I did when he took over is Snyder being gone
When Rivera took over we had no HR department, GM, Team President, and many staff within football operations had to be fired or resigned due to pending scandals or toxic behavior. Rivera had to oversee the overall rebuild of everything on football operations and essentially act as CEO on top of regular HC responsibilities. Jay Gruden was a very lax presence & regularly neutered by Bruce Allen. The team needed discipline and structure which Rivera provided.
It’s really crazy if you think about it considering what we now know about Snyder’s tenure in just the last decade of his ownership.
That’s what I was thinking. Jay Gruden was a stabilizing force when he took over, and he had a reasonable head coaching stretch. He took over at a time when Washington really needed some continuity at a minimum. Rivera’s just been more of the same, just with better defenses instead of Gruden’s offenses.
Incidentally, I’m surprise Gruden hasn’t gotten another shot. I didn’t think he did especially poorly as a HC, factoring in he was under Snyder.
Hope he retires and rides off into the sunset with a positive overall record
At 102–97–2 that’s gonna be a close call.
All we have to do is win 2 games
Damn RIP Ron’s positive record then I guess
Get one today please 🙏
Gonna be a close call
He gone
Gone Rivera
Future Chargers Head Coach Ron Rivera
Time to come home Ron.
As a DC maybe
And backup LB
I feel like he had to know what he was getting into with Snyder, to an extent, but man he didn’t deserve the shit he had to deal with and the skeletons kept coming out of the closet. Feel bad for the guy, he seems like a genuinely good person
If I ever buy a business for 6 billion dollars and I don’t evaluate it (at least) every year please tell me I’m doing it wrong.
Losing to Tommy DeVito wasn’t an unforeseen circumstance?
All-Pro looking Tommy DeVito.
I knew it was going to happen. Giants always seem to have our number dialed up. We can beat the 9-0 Eagles, but can’t beat a struggling Giants team
There’s really no benefit to firing Rivera mid season. We all know he’s a lame duck at this point. There’s also nobody worthy of stepping in as interim coach on the roster. Del Rio? He’s part of the problem, not the solution. Appointing Bienemy as interim head coach would be setting him up to fail IMO.
And what is gained by keeping him? Likely 7 more losses by season end.
Many talk of EB being coach next season. And clearly this team is a garbage fire, which is still very likely to be a garbage next year (rebuilds don’t happen in an off-season). So what’s the difference? If he can’t manage six weeks in a bad situation, how does he manage for a whole season?
Is it right? Maybe not, but will the expectation of a coaching regime change be that the new coach is not evaluated until they have all “their” pieces in place. Nope, what can do you with what you got, now. Not in 5 years. This is how it has been. So if EB cannot handle a late season appointment to interm HC, he can go right out the door with the rest of them.
“Likely 7 more losses by season end.”
Do you know who owns the Commanders? This is what he dreams about.
This team always finds a way to win like 3-4 meaningless games to finish the year lol.
He gone