• OmarHunting@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Having finally gotten around to watching this, the same things that bothered me about Fields are still here. He never makes throws before guys are open in anticipation of that window. Also points out several instances of guys being open, within his reads, while he’s looking, and no trigger pulled.

    Kid makes special plays every time he laces up. Can’t deny that. He misses too many routine plays to buy me in.

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    10 months ago

    Having finally gotten around to watching this, the same things that bothered me about Fields are still here. He never makes throws before guys are open in anticipation of that window. Also points out several instances of guys being open, within his reads, while he’s looking, and no trigger pulled.

    Kid makes special plays every time he laces up. Can’t deny that. He misses too many routine plays to buy me in.

  • PortillosBeef27@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    As much as I just don’t like Justin fields, it’s looking more and more like he’s probly gonna be here a while and it makes the most sense. The draftable qb’s ain’t looking like anything special and I would much rather have fields than crybaby nailpainter Caleb Williams

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      10 months ago

      You remove “as much as I just don’t like Justin fields” from that sentence, those downvotes turn into upvotes 🤣

  • TheMetabrandMan@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    That play on 21:50 where JT is saying he thinks that should be a TD, am I the only one here who thinks the receiver is waaaaay too far away from the endzone for that to be an anticipation throw? It looks to me like, even if Fields floats that ball into the back of the endzone, the Redeiver isn’t getting there.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah I think JT was off on a few of the plays he said Justin missed.

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      10 months ago

      That play was really weird to me because as many times as he ran the replay I never saw EQ open.

      He kept talking about the safety settling but if you’re throwing it in that moment where everyone is placed you have to throw a seam and he has to catch it between the “O” and the “N” on Lions logo in the end zone. It seemed like any other pass in that area had a high probability of being snagged.

      TJ says CJ makes that throw all the time. I’m not doubting it. I would just like to see it because I saw nothing there.

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        10 months ago

        TJ says CJ makes that throw all the time. I’m not doubting it. I would just like to see it because I saw nothing there.

        Not every throw is the same velocity. When Stroud makes that throw, it’s usually a softer pass towards the endzone, to give the WR more time to get behind the safety.

        That’s what JT is talking about here–the window isn’t that he’s open when he makes the cut, it’s that he’s open to be led as soon as the safety sits, and you can see that as he moves towards the back of the endzone.

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        10 months ago

        I agree too. It looked like the safety was sitting and ready to make a play on the ball if thrown. It would maybe be a TD when the safety starts tracking the other receiver but I think that would have been to late leading to a sack

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        10 months ago

        That play was really weird to me because as many times as he ran the replay I never saw EQ open.

        I’m with you on that. Imo JT messed up in his analysis of that play.

    • HandsomeKrom@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      I agree completely, that one had me scratching my head. Safety is sitting right in that window until Fields takes off, then he leaves and ESB looks open. He mentions CJ Stroud throwing a TD on that route, but he literally just threw a pick on a very similar play against the Cardinals. WR ran a post against outside leverage CB and inside lurking safety. Stroud tried to fit it in-between them, the safety high-points it and gets picked in the end zone. I think JT is flat out wrong there. Rare miss.

  • TheMetabrandMan@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Aside from the fumble and the deep-ball miss, Tyler Scott didn’t play well at all. I noticed he missed a couple of serious blocks in this footage.

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    10 months ago

    Seeing so many of these plays Bagent can’t make in his wildest dreams… but also.

    I know Bagent can hit the back of his drop and rip an in route when it’s open.

    I don’t have a point really. I’m just frustrated with this team.

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      10 months ago

      Seeing so many of these plays Bagent can’t make in his wildest dreams… but also.I know Bagent can hit the back of his drop and rip an in route when it’s open.I don’t have a point really. I’m just frustrated with this team.

      So what you’re saying is we need to get Bagent and Fields in a room together and play easy listening music and hope the resulting child gets all of the good traits from each and none of the bad?