A quick recap if you haven’t seen the presser, but essentially Eberflus says that there was a more conservative play to be made on 3rd down and that it falls on Justin and the offense. Many fans find his lack of accountability for the conservative runs up the middle on 1st/2nd down confusing. So here are my thoughts. Let me know what you think.


It’s actually incredibly fitting for a play like that to have so large an impact on this game and here’s why. It’s evident that conservative playcalling got the defense into trouble and lost the Bears the game in the 4th. And in his last presser, you seem to have Eberflus doubling down on the conservative runs on first and second down.

But then we have Justin, who everyone knows is a big game hunter. He saw an opportunity, and took the shot, executed his part of the play perfectly, but the receiver misplayed it. Now, because it didn’t work out, that’s supposed to be the scapegoat in Eberflus’s mind because it wasn’t the conservative, ‘higher probability’ play.

This is just one small example of the larger issue I think we’re seeing here. This front office and coaching staff are neutering players. Square peg/round holing players trying to get them to fit a scheme and not play to their strengths.

Adam Hoge, on CHGO today talked about how he saw Getsy talking to fields before that drive. And he basically said, and I agree, that that conversation went one of two ways. The bad and most likely way, “Justin go out there and just try to get a first down, no turnovers.”

Or the good way, “go out there and be you, let it rip.” That would mirror Justin’s character that we heard earlier in the year of just being himself and going out and playing. But time and time again we see that this coaching staff are afraid to take the chances at the right moments and it’s holding this team back, and on top of that Eberflus won’t take accountability for it either.

It’s not hard to say, “Justin threw a great ball, and Tyler has got to catch that, but I have faith in both those guys and that’s why we did it, but at the end of the day that’s on me. We could have been more conservative but I’m out here trying to win.”

One sentence and you’d never bat an eye at the offensive play-calling in that series, but this staff just can’t help themselves from the lying and misdirection. They’re trying to upkeep a facade of perfection that just doesn’t show on the football field.

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    The bad and most likely way, “Justin go out there and just try to get a first down, no turnovers.”

    Or the good way, “go out there and be you, let it rip.”

    This is incredibly stupid. In that situation you need to play smart football. You absolutely need to reinforce the no turnovers message. “Be you” is some idiotic Nagy-level meaningless junk. If Fields isn’t capable of running a 4 minute drive because “that’s not him” then there’s never been a more damning thing said about him.

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    10 months ago

    Every player on the field executed well. There were some mishaps (Scott hesitated, missed blocks etc.,) but all in all they did what they were asked to do.

    The play calling was painful. Our local HS football coach could of done better.

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    What reason does Poles have to not fire him? Money? Are temporary interim HC’s that expensive? Were they both told they would be fired? Poles is still making major roster moves so I doubt that is it. To save face? Even if Eberflus does great the next 6 games it isn’t going to make himself or Poles look that much better. It will just shine a bigger light on what everyone knows (and the Lions linebacker said) that this team has the talent it is the coaching that is the problem.

    Poles could send a positive message to the current players by putting the blame mostly where it belongs. I can’t think of a good reason why he doesn’t do it.

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    Flus is constantly blaming the players when things dont work out. Look at the play calling of the Lions vs the Bears on those last few drives. Goff throws 3 picks in the game and they still go to him to drive down the field to win it. There is no excuse to call for 2 straight runs up the middle with Herbert when 1) up to that point he was only averaging like 1 yard a carry and 2) Fields was averaging like 6 yards a run and like 8 yards per attempt. They shouldve done some RPO on those drives vs the bullshit they ended up calling. And the Lions knew exactly what the bears were going to do. Flus cant out-coach a HS coach at this point.

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    10 months ago

    Why do we keep hiring risk averse cowards entrenched in their scheme? Its the same shit every single year here.

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    His presser this morning was like a comedy routine. They asked if coaches have any accountability and he was like when we played awesome against the Saints the play caller is accountable and gets credit for that, whoever the play caller was, oh that was me

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    His presser this morning was like a comedy routine. They asked if coaches have any accountability and he was like when we played awesome against the Saints the play caller is accountable and gets credit for that, whoever the play caller was, oh that was me

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    I agree with most of what you said, and I want flus and getsy to be fired. But I have a problem with the narrative you and others are pushing where the coaching is wrong OR fields is wrong. No in between. Why can’t it be both? I want new coaches AND I want Justin to walk away thinking “I should’ve thrown the easy first down” instead of blaming Tyler. That’s how you improve, that’s what a winning attitude is. To me Justin blaming Tyler is complacent and just as shameful as Eberflus blaming Justin.

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      I’m not saying Justin is perfect, but I think we can agree that Eberflus and Getsy are not getting the most out of this team. Personally, I am of the opinion we need to blow everything up and let Justin walk and draft a new QB. With that said, the point of this post was to say Getsy/Flus are not coaching to Justin’s strengths when it matters most.