• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    1 year ago

    That seems really low to me for a global number, especially given how trans people are criminalized and villified in so many countries.

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      1 year ago

      The villification is why the reported numbers are so low.

      So many of us are robbed of our identity in death.

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        1 year ago

        That’s a good point, thanks to deadnaming, this number could be VASTLY under-reported.

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          And even when they get it right, if they don’t explicitly have something to flag the person as trans, then the data doesn’t get accounted for in crime statistics.

          And speaking as a trans person, the last people I want to know that I’m transgender are the police, so even self under-reporting could be a factor

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            I wish it wasn’t true, but I think you’re very smart to be cautious of the police.

            Stay safe out there.

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      Ya, my first thought was “wow i thought it would be much higher”. Glad it’s not though.

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        1 year ago

        That’s what I was thinking… “Man, even for the US that seems low… wait, GLOBALLY?”

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          Doubt most murders of trans people are registered as such, especially in countries which don’t accept that trans people exist. The article implies as much:

          The report explained that the majority of murder cases (235 cases) were reported in Latin America and the Caribbean, partly due to the “existence of established monitoring systems in these regions”, while Armenia, Belgium and Slovakia reported trans murders for the first time. … TGEU explained that the horrific stats are only part of the full picture, with some trans people not identified as trans or gender diverse in reports of their deaths, leaving many potential additional cases unreported.

          Honestly wouldn’t surprise me. They don’t even care enough to record the numbers murdered.

          As plenty of these are also sex workers, plenty of places the police gives less than zero shits. Even ordinary sex workers avoid the police like the plague. So much so that people will avoid talking to the police at all or coming forward in even the most serious cases, out of fear of being raped, robbed, deported or worse.

          IRC Gary Ridgway, who likely murdered over a hundred women, testified he targeted sex workers because he knew it’d allow him to get away with it. Which he did for two decades. You’ll also occasionally hear of cases where seemingly an entire precinct systematically raped sex workers, apparently thinking it was something they were entitled to along with free coffee and donuts.

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    Isn’t that a lower rate than cis people?

    Like worldwide, even if only 0.1% of people are trans (an intentional underestimate for conservative numbers) that’s a murder rate of 4.3 per 100k people. The worldwide average is 7.5.

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      Not that it’s a competition, but the article mentions this number being far lower than the actual number, so you can’t make a fair comparison.

      This is basically a case of some countries and places giving enough of a shit about trans people being murdered, to bother recording how prevalent it is for the first time. Plenty of places, given these are often sex workers, they’d just let them rot in a ditch and mark it down as unknown causes when they find the remains.

      A lot of male homicide is also gang related. That’s different than being murdered by a client or partner, because of your gender identity. A bit like how Jewish people may be less likely to be murdered, but that doesn’t mean it’s not noteworthy when someone burns down a synagogue and kills Jews because of their ethnicity.

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        You see this all over the place with how things are culturally counted. Like how driveby shootings are not counted by a lot of US statistical data as mass shooting in the US because they are more interested in the phenomenon of a targeted usual murder suicide of a very specific terrorist style execution… but other countries will record drive bys as notable mass shootings for their data.

        A lot of places have law enforcement that are very invested in not participating in things that could harm their reputations so not participating in recording data points that assist in the conclusion that a genocide is occurring makes it easier to sweep issues under the rug.

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    I keep saying this: marginalized and discriminated people are the best ones to own firearms.

    Don’t trust a society that hates you to protect you.

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      Then why isn’t America the safest country in the world?

      You’re not repeating some deep wisdom to enlighten poor oppressed idiots who just don’t know how cool guns are, you’re repeating marketing slogans for a gun lobby who worked out they can sell hero fantasies to leftists too.