A few weeks ago, you saw people saying he was a generational talent, that they would pick him (as a prospect coming out of college) over Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, John Elway, comparing his game to Patrick Mahomes. He has lost a few games this year but Jesus, his defense gives up 33 PPG, 420 yards of offense per game and they let people score 94% of the time in the redzone.

He has 119 total touchdowns over 3 years with only 13 ints. This year he is completing almost 70% of his passes. Are you guys genuinely concerned about his ability to play at the next level or is it just nit picking at this point?

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    There’s also a lot of people who saw him demonstrate immature behavior. In the Notre Dame game he was yelling at his teammates, blaming them for his own shortcomings. You could hear him and see him doing this throughout the game. It wasn’t hyping them up, it was him refusing to take accountability for why things weren’t working. That’s been a keystone trait of his…when things don’t go exactly right from the start of a game he doesn’t know how to adjust.

    In two other games since then he’s had reactions where in one he sat on the bench refusing to cheer his D on/pouting, and the second game he, literally and not figuratively, ran into the stands and cried to his Mom over a loss. It’s also worth noting this wasn’t a few tears, but heaving breaths and tears to the point his Mom covered his face up.

    There are more than just dubious reports that raise red flags with his behavior and maturity. He appears to be a lower ceiling/lower floor version of Fields but with maturity/leadership issues. He comes from a much weaker division but is playing worse.

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      I disagree on the Fields comparison. Fields had issues with mechanics, navigating the pocket, reading the field, and throwing into windows (waited for guys to get wide open). He still has all these issues.

      Williams has his issues, but he checks most of the above boxes that Fields didn’t. Fields may seem like a better prospect because of the stats, but he had more around him to play with. More times then not his team was far superior than who they played against.

      Williams Maturity on the other hand is absolutely a red flag.

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      There’s also a lot of people who saw him demonstrate immature behavior. In the Notre Dame game he was yelling at his teammates

      These criticisms are such nonsense. Tom Brady would throw hissy fits on the sideline all the time. He’d yell at players, break tablets, etc. Aaron Rodgers is famous for shitbag behavior too. Players get emotional on the sidelines all the fucking time. Just ask yourself why Williams is getting so much hate, but this behavior is excused for other players.

      Also, you are making shit up about lower ceiling/lower floor of Fields. This is quite literally the opposite.

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        10 months ago

        You’re talking future first round HoF QB’s vs a college prospect who isn’t even the BPA in this draft. Additionally, I’ve consistently said I hate both Brady and Rodgers for the same reasons. Hell, listen to Fitzmagic talk about how much he hates Brady because the guy throws a fit and refuses to shake his hand if he loses. Just because people are willing to put up with them because of their skill doesn’t make it acceptable, and it certainly doesn’t alleviate it from being a red flag.

        Also explain to me how he is a higher ceiling/higher floor option than Fields when he has never been to a national championship, has performed worse against ranked defenses, has the same weaknesses Fields was/is criticized for, and has the emotional/maturity issues.

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          You are scouting box scores. By your logic, Fields has a higher floor/ceiling than Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Luck, and the many other elite QBs that have never been to a national championship.