• BadaBing@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This whole story is beyond weird. None of it makes any sense - a fast moving coup against an established government, an abrupt about face, and then exile into a neighboring country - only to come back “home” to pick up your prized pistol and a few other things. Oh, and also to meet up the leader you tried to overthrow.

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        1 year ago

        But, for what goal, though? I’m asking because I’m genuinely curious. It made Putin look weak and it really seemed like he and this crony cabinet were on the run. It’s not like Putin squashed down the rebellion in a show of force - instead, Wagner said “yeah, it’s all good, imma turn around now and peace out to Belarus. Lates”.

        • Soviet Snake@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          The idea that Putin looked weak is something only being promulgated on Western media, I have Russian and Belorussian friends and follow Russian Telegram channels and everywhere the idea of Putin, you like it or not, is that it emerged stronger, since pretty much all high ranking officers in the military stood by him and showed unity, and he managed to resolve the situation with as little bloodshed as possible. From the outside, everyone can cry whatever they want about him looking weak, but what matters is that inside of Russia there’s more unity now than before, and that makes them look at themselves as stronger.

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          1 year ago

          Did it really make him look weak, though? He’s consolidated the military under the MoD umbrella, his comradery with Lukashenko likely improved, the West is admitting that Ukraine is running out of ammo (thus the cluster ammunition) and he (or rather Lukashenko) has a strong private army close to the Ukrainian border, about 90km from Kiev.

          The only people claiming his weakness were some Western officials and the press and both haven’t been particularly trustworthy nor well informed in their assessments of the situation thus far.

          Edit: Not to forget that Prigozhin made it clear that his problems weren’t with Putin but with MoD leadership/Shoigu.

          • twitterfluechtling@lemmy.pathoris.de
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            1 year ago

            He’s consolidated the military under the MoD umbrella,

            Has he? He lost capable military leaders from Wagner, and those forced to fight alongside Russian troops fight now alongside troops which bombed them before. I hardly imagine there is much trust or comrades between Russian military and Wagner troops.

            his comradery with Lukashenko likely improved,

            It strengthened Lukashenko.

            the West is admitting that Ukraine is running out of ammo (thus the cluster ammunition)

            … which has nothing to do with the attempted coup

            and he (or rather Lukashenko) has a strong private army close to the Ukrainian border, about 90km from Kiev

            It really depends if that army still fights for Putin. The smear-campaign against Prigozhin wouldn’t make sense in this scenario.

            Putin looks like messing about, trying to make the best of the situation, with no clear plan. He looks weak, and maybe worse, plan-less.

            • zephyrvs@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              You have some valid points there. In the end I don’t know more than you. :)