So, I’m tired of all these companies having access to my information and data. I’m also trying to limit security concerns from hackers and general lowlifes. Is this possible? Is there anyone who teaches or guides on this (preferably on YouTube as im a bit of a visual learner).

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    10 months ago

    You can have a relatively high level of security with your home automation. Based on your description so far, you will need a system that offers local control without cloud service reliance. There are several systems HomeSeer, openHAB, Ezlo Hubitat, HomeAssistant, and more, that provide this capability.

    I’m afraid I cannot recommend a specific YouTube training series. Most especially with the DIY local only solutions, it is a journey of learning that you must find and follow for yourself.

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    10 months ago

    Avoid products from the Big Tech companies, such as Amazon, Google, Apple, etc. Look for FOSS alternatives (Free open-source software).

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    10 months ago

    Home- assistant premise is to run everything locally as much as possible to avoid the dependence on cloud based devices and / or their cloud based services. There is a learning curve no doubt… and can be a bit overwhelming at first but imo worth it.

    There is a huge following and literally thousands of videos on YouTube going into detail on so many specifics. Maybe look into it…

    https://www.home-assistant.io/

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      10 months ago

      Please correct me if I’m wrong, but certain devices I get will be able to run without having to sign up on that companies systems, so long as it’s HA compatible?

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      Potentially setting off a war here, but isn’t Home Assistant even in the process of adding Matter support to obviate the need for Zigbee and Z-wave in favor of Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and Thread?

      That’s honestly all I’m waiting for since all my smart devices support Matter and I’ll slowly introduce more as more become available.

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    The other thing to keep in mind if you got to a locally hosted, locally controlled smart home is THE SPEED. Coming from Smart Things to Home Assistant I was blown away how when I opened the webpage or app, everything was ALREADY loaded, and when I clicked a button stuff INSTANTLY happened. Smart Things was, open app (wait 10-15 seconds while all the devices updated their status in the app, press a button to turn something on, wait 5-10 seconds for it to do the things. HA, open app, boom it’s up, press button and there is no perceptible delay.

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    As others have said, Home Assistant is a great option, built from the ground up to be both completely local and private if you want, as well as extremely flexible. My entire house runs mostly on zwave and zigbee for lighting, security, power monitoring, hvac, cameras, and sensors, and those are kept completely local, no clouds, no companies, all running on a mini pc in my closet. Plus it’s able to connect to other existing cloud stuff to integrate that don’t have a local option, such as smart TVs, car chargers, smart thermostats, anything you can dream. r/homeassistant and their home-assistant.io are good starting places

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    Use a non-ip based automation tech. ZWave, zigbee, insteon, knx and RadioRa2 are popular choices.

    Pick a controller that doesn’t need the cloud. Hubitat, HomeSeer, ISY994 and HomeAssistant are likewise popular. These controllers at most need internet access for initial set up and software updates.

    You can lock them down completely or open specific ports for emails, remote access, etc.

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    10 months ago

    Is this possible?

    Yes.

    Will you have the same level of functionality and convenience? No.

    Will it be easy? No.

    There are tricks you can play with your firewall and other networking pieces to prevent devices from calling home. But those devices have to have local API’s exposed so you can still control them.

    Consumer HA companies rolled out WiFi cloud solutions because it was easy. Consumer could get started after buying just one device. Not need for a HUB and compatibility. Then they learned that cloud data can actually be pretty useful.

    Hopefully Matter will cut into this mess. Part of the standard is that all devices should have local control and cloud access should be only for added functionality.

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    Like others have said - don’t buy Cloud based products. Don’t buy from huge marketing companies intended on World Domination.

    That being said, there are lots of good options.

    HomeAssistant, Homeseer, and certainly our (Allonis) myServer controller.

    Speaking specifically about myServer (I think this applies to all three), there is no requirement for Internet connectivity. The only things you need Internet for is: Software updates from our cloud server, optional TVGuide data, optional Weather data updates. Remote assistance from Allonis. We have done high security installation for the government, a prison, and schools and a very popular Silicon Valley company. All require NO Internet connection for security. Some required the system to be on it’s own standalone network (not even from a managed switch).

    Even our in development voice control system does not require any Internet access. Optionally you can decide to forward your “words” (not your conversations) to cloud based services that you are all very familiar with. But the core “remote control” aspects are handled by myServer in house.

    We haven’t done Matter development yet (not ready for prime time) but I don’t believe there is any requirements for Internet if it’s executed with that requirement from the company that integrates it (Allonis). Feel free to raise and cite exceptions that are known.

    Z-Wave and Zigbee and Lutron and DMX and hundreds of other protocols don’t require any connection to the Internet.

    Make sure you have a well architected and engineered network starting with your firewall. Make sure you have modded the default password!!! That’s the number 1 gotcha.

    Don’t give anyone access to your non Guest network. Ensure your Guest network has no connection to your devices or computers on your network.

    Create a Control Network that is it’s own subnet independent of the rest of your casual use PCs. Ensure you use good password control of your Wifi network.

    Anyway, the above items brings you into a pretty secure environment.

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    10 months ago

    Use a hub (home assistant is popular) use devices that talk only to that hub.

    the security model is not perfect but it’s a lot better than the norm.

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      VLANs are not the only answer. If your smart hub on its private IoT VLAN becomes a bot farm victim and consumes all your ISP bandwidth and/or gets your IP blacklisted you’re still hooped.

      Defense in depth is key, VLANs help, but also specific firewall rules, keep up patching, smart password and MFA practices, etc.

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    10 months ago

    I’m think biggest thing you can do is don’t introduce cameras inside the home. Use motion sensors instead. Your digital footprint is out there regardless , if you use any type of technology.

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    Whenever you start using the internet, your privacy is exposed.

    If you concern of privacy leaking, don’t use any internet and internet related devices.