I pray this doesn’t spread and come to the US, because this will 100% make my iPhone experience worse.
Google, Microsoft, and Facebook at minimum will want to have their own separate stores to avoid the Apple Tax. So that’s 3 new locations I’d have to manage installs and updates from. Nevermind the new risk factor for mom o dad not knowing if they’re installing the right app.
eu big W
A gentle reminder that “sideloading” is optional and probably won’t be easy to activate, so your mom is safe.
Scammers could already find a way in by using certificates or something like that.
Yeah until the big apps decide they’re big enough to get users to switch off the App Store. Then grandma is trying to follow instructions from an email to install Facebook and disable the protections, and now she’s screwed it up and there’s malware.
Every trip home for the holidays in about getting all the crap to make her computer usable again. Now I’ll have to do that to her phone, too??
EU doesn’t even have sideloading yet and you are already creating fake scare-fantasies in your head, my god lol
tbh old people don’t need sideloading to be scamed and have their money stolen
I just hope companies won’t pull their apps from the store and force the sideloading of their horrible extra tracker filled version.
If that doesn’t happen in practice this will be a win.
Scammers could already find a way in by using certificates or something like that.
This is way harder and much more complicated than you’re implying. You basically need a targeted campaign against you and you’d have to be the only target for a period of time.
epic games right now: https://youtu.be/v79XKftN1Wo?feature=shared
The EU is a dictatorship at this point. Every dictator looks good the first few years. People are just overlooking it because they’re part of the problem. How can people not see how risky this is? Apple “should be forced” to do these things, right? What’s next on the agenda?
No, that has nothing to do with dictatorship. These are quite normal requirements and regulations. I just wonder how MacOS has been able to run so well, stable and safely so far 😅
Oh then I guess Tim Cook should resign and let the EU take the role of CEO, and the engineers at apple should start taking advice from you.
Forcing them to put USB C, forcing them to have sideloading (which is lined with all sorts of security concerns which is my main issue here, go buy andr🦠id). What’s next on the agenda, I ask
Why should they accept suggestions from me? No one makes any suggestions at all. These are regulations and laws that companies have to adhere to. USB-C is a good thing. It’s good for everyone that the EU has pushed this through 👍 otherwise we would still have Lightning with USB 2.0 from the iP15Pro from 2008. what’s the point with this security shit. With MacOS, the concept also works. But companies would have to be forced to comply with certain regulations, otherwise they will do what they want.
This is going to be bad for customers. Imagine how much shortcuts companies are going to take now. They will have no safe guards for greedy companies.
Am I the only one that don’t like /care for this? If I want an open OS that I can load all kind of crap on. I would have gotten an android.
I have an iOS because I appreciate the security of the walled garden.
Please tell me the garden is still secure 😅
Buy andr🦠id
Of course it will only be for the EU. I’m sure users in other countries will find ways to get around this but I don’t see them willingly to open things up where they are forced to. This isn’t coming from the kindness of their hearts, keep in mind.
I’m sure Apple being Apple, is going to half bake it just enough to comply while making it a pain in the ass for users.
I know epic only wants to do things that piss Apple off now.
So I wonder if they’ll bring Fortnite back through side loading only because they know being able to show off their app not giving Apple a single dime will piss be a thorn in Apple’s side.
What happens if you buy a phone in the EU but then go to the US? What happens if you get an iPhone in the US but move to an EU country? Would the 3rd party store still work?
Any chance we get a proper version of Firefox with actual extensions
How do I make my phone think I’m in the EU?
Good luck.
https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/25/ios-16-restrict-features-based-on-location/
Based on our findings, the new system internally called “countryd” was silently added with iOS 16.2, but is not being actively used for anything so far. It combines multiple data such as current GPS location, country code from the Wi-Fi router, and information obtained from the SIM card to determine the country the user is in.
Europe suddenly became the #1 tourist attractions of all time
I really hope some apps can’t exploit this.
Mostly because I VPN into some streaming apps, so they think I’m in a different country when I’m not to get that sweet dirt cheap PPV cost.
I’m surprised that works at all. Most apps that use your location is based the location provided by iOS, which is using gps, and that can’t be spoofed easily.
It can be spoofed very easily on android. Well, not GPS itself. With developer options you can simulate other GPS locations. So any service that runs on both android and iOS can’t rely on using GPS to catch all users using a VPN.
Also both OSs make it easy for a user to deny an app access to any kind of location info other than the IP address
https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/25/ios-16-restrict-features-based-on-location/
I do hope Apple won’t allow access.
OK good, it’s not tied to your apple account then.
I’m in the UK. Can I change the date to pre-Brexit 2015? [Drifts into adolescent memory] Or 2000?
The UK will have a similar rule, just lags a bit behind.
As a German bro, I hope you guys come back. We would love to have you back tbh.
Thank you mein freund. Although, I can’t think why – we’re fools. We elected Boorish Johnson. We must be.
I bought a phone in Japan and I live in the EU. While in Japan, the camera shutter sound couldn’t be turned off as per local law. Then when I came home it was silent as normal. Then upgraded to a new phone and old one is making the shutter sound again without a SIM in it. So it both detects which market it’s from and where it’s used.
What happens if you remove the SIM, disconnect from cellular and wifi?
From what was described above it sounds like it goes to the default setting (i.e. shutter) if there’s no SIM in it.
Doesn’t make a difference
Just so you’re aware and not spreading complete lies, there is no law about the shutter sound in Japan. There never was and never will be. The shutter sound is an entirely OEM decision and was never ever a law.
And yet my phone is from Hong Kong and I went to Japan and it didn’t make a peep.
And yet my phone is from Hong Kong and I went to Japan and it didn’t make a peep.
Did you put a japanese SIM?
No, but my gf did and her phone didn’t start making the sound.
I’m in Korea and there’s the same camera sound law. Bought a 14 Pro Max in the UAE, no camera sound. Brought it to Korea, inserted Korean SIM (not tourist account, but resident postpaid), still no sound.
Yea, I live in Japan and came back to US. Phone shutter never switched over and I bought US iPhone then went back and shutter never reactivated. Dude story sketchy
Can I ask what model phone this is? That’s interesting, I used to work at the Genius Bar and the handful of Japanese model phones I’ve seen all had the shutter no matter what. But these were slightly older models that had been sold second hand to end up in the US.
It was an 8 plus
Zero chance without jailbreak but then you don’t need it. You might be able to fool a single app into believing a false location but an entire OS that has access to GPS, local WiFi details etc….
Depends what the EU stipulates. Don’t they require iPhones which are sold in the EU to abide by these rules? Or like you said phones which reside in the EU?
There was concerns when this was announced that Apple could legally delete all your sideloaded apps the moment you stepped outside of the EU.
I bought a phone in Japan and I live in the EU. While in Japan, the camera shutter sound couldn’t be turned off as per local law. Then when I came home it was silent as normal. Then upgraded to a new phone and old one is making the shutter sound again without a SIM in it. So it both detects which market it’s from and where it’s used.
I’m guessing they base it on your credit card associated with your account. I’ve had credit cards from different countries, and using one from a specific country will make the App Store (and some services) swap to that country, independent of where I am physically. Although this can be a different situation.
I don’t think so. I’ve lived in the Middle East for the last few years. When I’m home in the UK, certain features work on my phone but they disappear as soon as I head back to the Middle East. I used UK card on my account always.
When I was in the UK, I could identify plants/animals in my photos but as soon as I got to Kuwait, it just didn’t give me the option anymore.
Move to the EU
What if you fly in and out of the EU?
Hopefully I can also run Mac apps on iPad when proper sideloading is enabled.
UTM with CPU accelerated virtualization (like on Mac). I only want this.
That’s not going to happen, but you are free to continue dreaming I suppose