please, fandom is one of the worst sites on the internet
When the old school RuneScape wiki moved to a self hosted solution it was night and day the quality difference. I’d argue that OSRS (and probably regular RS) have some of the best wikis in gaming.
From what I’ve heard, the RS3 wiki was even better, but for sure both are fantastic. Prime examples of how wikis should work. They’re even fully integrated into the game.
The four horsemen of the video game Google search apocalypse are Fandom, IGN, Polygon, and GameRant
Fr. Recently the Satisfactory wiki moved off of fandom and it is already so much better. More wikis need to drop fandom.
But somehow fextralife is even worse.
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It used to be so decent, but man, it turned to crap. I hardly recognize what it once was.
I installed Firefox with uBlock Origin on Android primarily because fandom hosts the Forgotten Realms wiki and it’s intolerable.
Fandom has been a pretty terrible experience for awhile now. I hope they find a better home.
They should move to Neocities
Just whatever you do, do not use Google docs to share information that belongs to a wiki. That’s is by far the most annoying option and 100 times worse than just having to deal with a fandom wiki.
I agree, it’ll also make a mess out of your “shared tab” on your drive. Me opening a document from som random doesn’t mean that I want it to bury the documents that has been actively shared with me, from my wife for instance.
Good, Fandom’s wiki’s are garbage.
I’m an editor for a community wiki that moved off fandom a few years ago to Mireheze. When the recent discussion about Miraheze shutting down happened I briefly inquired about where we would migrate to, expressing my hope to not return to fandom, and was quite thouroghly assured that fandom is not somewhere that would even be considered returning to. I don’t think I’ve had a single positive experience on a fandom wiki ever, or at least not in over 8 years, with issues ranging from intrusive ads, to the comment section pop in making scrolling inconsistent, to even something as simple as it universally looking fucking ugly, I can’t wait for people to leave and am actively cheering on its slow death as a website.
Stardew Valley did the right thing by self hosting a wiki, makes it both official and independent
Several have, including the old school RuneScape wiki!
Now there’s two, and one is far more content full
I’m pleased to hear that they’re moving. Fandom’s had a monopoly on the community-created wiki space for far too long, and it’s had a dire effect on the usability of so many wikis. It’s like they’re trying to make their site everything but a easily usable resource for community wikis.
On a related note, I highly recommend the “Indie Wiki Buddy” extension for Chrome and Firefox. When non-Fandom/Fextralife wikis are available, it’ll direct you to those instead; and when they’re not, it’ll allow you to view the Fandom wiki through a much more usable mirror.
If this was available for FF on Android I would be a happy man. Thank you for your comment though. I installed on my laptop!
You can install any extension you want, but it’s a bit of a process. https://www.androidpolice.com/install-add-on-extension-mozilla-firefox-android/
Thanks! I’ll look into that!
Some other unofficial Firefox builds enable it too. I recommend Fennec on F-Droid, which has some minor privacy improvements and otherwise mirrors the release build, not the beta build.
Use android dev or a fork like Fennec, set your own addon collection, then install any addon on mobile by adding it to your collection. Bit more annoying than it should be, but once set up allmost as convenient as on desktop
What do you mean by “android dev”?
The developer test version.
I wanna say originally it was only “Firefox Nightly for Developers”, now “Firefox Beta for Testers” allows it too.
Looks like the add-supported-free-stuff business model really is collapsing.
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If ad companies would be paid according to customer conversion rate instead of how many ads they spam everywhere, it would collapse within a financial quarter.
Thinking that people support a brand or product that constantly annoys them is next-level stupid, but it’s their main strategy. Google’s conversion rate is less than 4% and instead of realizing that spamming trillions of ads on every site is causing that abysmal rate, they double down and get off to bigger “reach”.
Also, Google lied to customers of their TrueView ads and just presented people muted autoplay ads instead. Here’s an analysis about that.
https://adalytics.io/blog/invalid-google-video-partner-trueview-ads
tl;dr the only one benefitting from ads is Google.
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As aptly explained by writer Cory Doctorow:
Here is how platforms die: First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
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Unfortunately, for most technology startups there are exactly two ways to pay salaries to the developers: getting investors (which lead to the exact cycle that I explained earlier) or paywalling the site up the wazoo (which leads to the community being necessarily smaller than it could have been otherwise).
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And even with no capitalism involved in the equation, how do we convince the government to get taxpayers to foot the bill for something as mundane as an image hosting service? Especially in an environment where even art and education are being severely restricted in cash flow due to them being “non-essential services”?
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Exactly this.
When a company can’t expand its market share anymore they will make the product cheaper, worse and more expensive.
For tech this means filling the product with bloat, upping the prices for consumers, and lowering their payouts to creators (subcontractors).
What’s wrong with Spotify?
Did I miss the reference to Spotify?
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Going to Fandom is like visiting a annoying dying person because they hold the hidden information.
The old Minecraft Wiki was so great. I was pissed when I heard they got bought by Fandom…
Fandom is so utterly annoying with those unrelated videos. Really annoying website.
I am an admin on another wiki that used to be on Gamepedia before the Fandom buyout. We forked immediately. I have also been self hosting a wiki for another game since early 2017. Completely worth it. Fandom has always had terrible user experience, and frankly they do not care about their users at all. Maybe their community-level staff do, but definitely not the higher ups. I’ve chatted with them directly when we were planning to fork. They’re only in it for the money, not for the good of the editors or readers. They make ridiculous changes that are great for advertisers but completely subvert the user experience and actual content on the page. They’ve also let go a lot of their staff for nonsensical reasons. I really hope the Minecraft wiki goes through with the fork, and that more and more wikis follow. It’s absurd how much of a monopoly they have, given how awful their service is. I for one will be happy to visit the Minecraft wiki again, as someone who plays occasionally, but not often enough to be keeping tabs on all the new features and updates. But I boycott Fandom wikis on principle so I haven’t been there in years.
A lot of people are moving to wiki.gg l. It has so many more features
If they don’t migrate to a wiki running on a Minecraft CPU virtual VPS, I riot.
