Citing "lack of transparency from Fandom [...] loss of features [...] and toxic company culture."

Here’s hoping they migrate to wiki.gg as Terraria’s contributors have a while ago.

    • subtext@lemmy.worldEnglish
      19·
      2 years ago

      When the old school RuneScape wiki moved to a self hosted solution it was night and day the quality difference. I’d argue that OSRS (and probably regular RS) have some of the best wikis in gaming.

      https://osrs.wiki

      • Ruben@feddit.nlEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        From what I’ve heard, the RS3 wiki was even better, but for sure both are fantastic. Prime examples of how wikis should work. They’re even fully integrated into the game.

    • AshenParty@mastodon.social
      2·
      2 years ago

      @Kovu @simple
      I’ve literally installed an extension to block out fandom results while searching and redirecting to self-hosted fanwikis instead. I hate that ad filled website.

    • Neato@kbin.social
      2·
      2 years ago

      I installed Firefox with uBlock Origin on Android primarily because fandom hosts the Forgotten Realms wiki and it’s intolerable.

  • NthLink@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    2 years ago

    Fandom has been a pretty terrible experience for awhile now. I hope they find a better home.

  • Vipsu@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    2 years ago

    Just whatever you do, do not use Google docs to share information that belongs to a wiki. That’s is by far the most annoying option and 100 times worse than just having to deal with a fandom wiki.

    • NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nuEnglish
      8·
      2 years ago

      I agree, it’ll also make a mess out of your “shared tab” on your drive. Me opening a document from som random doesn’t mean that I want it to bury the documents that has been actively shared with me, from my wife for instance.

  • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    2 years ago

    I’m an editor for a community wiki that moved off fandom a few years ago to Mireheze. When the recent discussion about Miraheze shutting down happened I briefly inquired about where we would migrate to, expressing my hope to not return to fandom, and was quite thouroghly assured that fandom is not somewhere that would even be considered returning to. I don’t think I’ve had a single positive experience on a fandom wiki ever, or at least not in over 8 years, with issues ranging from intrusive ads, to the comment section pop in making scrolling inconsistent, to even something as simple as it universally looking fucking ugly, I can’t wait for people to leave and am actively cheering on its slow death as a website.

    • Corhen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Several have, including the old school RuneScape wiki!

      Now there’s two, and one is far more content full

  • inexplicablehaddock@lemmy.loungerat.ioEnglish
    24·
    2 years ago

    I’m pleased to hear that they’re moving. Fandom’s had a monopoly on the community-created wiki space for far too long, and it’s had a dire effect on the usability of so many wikis. It’s like they’re trying to make their site everything but a easily usable resource for community wikis.

    On a related note, I highly recommend the “Indie Wiki Buddy” extension for Chrome and Firefox. When non-Fandom/Fextralife wikis are available, it’ll direct you to those instead; and when they’re not, it’ll allow you to view the Fandom wiki through a much more usable mirror.

      • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        5·
        2 years ago

        If ad companies would be paid according to customer conversion rate instead of how many ads they spam everywhere, it would collapse within a financial quarter.

        Thinking that people support a brand or product that constantly annoys them is next-level stupid, but it’s their main strategy. Google’s conversion rate is less than 4% and instead of realizing that spamming trillions of ads on every site is causing that abysmal rate, they double down and get off to bigger “reach”.

        Also, Google lied to customers of their TrueView ads and just presented people muted autoplay ads instead. Here’s an analysis about that.

        https://adalytics.io/blog/invalid-google-video-partner-trueview-ads

        tl;dr the only one benefitting from ads is Google.

          • Carlos Solís@communities.azkware.netEnglish
            1·
            2 years ago

            Unfortunately, for most technology startups there are exactly two ways to pay salaries to the developers: getting investors (which lead to the exact cycle that I explained earlier) or paywalling the site up the wazoo (which leads to the community being necessarily smaller than it could have been otherwise).

              • Carlos Solís@communities.azkware.netEnglish
                2·
                2 years ago

                And even with no capitalism involved in the equation, how do we convince the government to get taxpayers to foot the bill for something as mundane as an image hosting service? Especially in an environment where even art and education are being severely restricted in cash flow due to them being “non-essential services”?

  • elbowdrop@lemmy.worldEnglish
    211·
    2 years ago

    Going to Fandom is like visiting a annoying dying person because they hold the hidden information.

  • yaycupcake@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    17·
    2 years ago

    I am an admin on another wiki that used to be on Gamepedia before the Fandom buyout. We forked immediately. I have also been self hosting a wiki for another game since early 2017. Completely worth it. Fandom has always had terrible user experience, and frankly they do not care about their users at all. Maybe their community-level staff do, but definitely not the higher ups. I’ve chatted with them directly when we were planning to fork. They’re only in it for the money, not for the good of the editors or readers. They make ridiculous changes that are great for advertisers but completely subvert the user experience and actual content on the page. They’ve also let go a lot of their staff for nonsensical reasons. I really hope the Minecraft wiki goes through with the fork, and that more and more wikis follow. It’s absurd how much of a monopoly they have, given how awful their service is. I for one will be happy to visit the Minecraft wiki again, as someone who plays occasionally, but not often enough to be keeping tabs on all the new features and updates. But I boycott Fandom wikis on principle so I haven’t been there in years.

  • Annoyed_Crabby@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    2 years ago

    Lol, they moved out from Reddit and now they moved out from Fandom.

    But their solution could be as simple as make their own wiki.

    • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 years ago

      Imagine if we already had all the tools needed, and all that’s missing is a bit of hosting and a bit of moderation. If only there was a company with some extra cash behind this… haha.

      But it’s seriously time people retake some kind of control over their online activity. All these “services” looking at every occasion to screw their user is getting annoying.

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        2 years ago

        Yeah I think people need to separate “popular” from “profitable” in their minds because while I do spend a lot of time on the internet, most of it isn’t for anything I’d be willing to pay for, and if it’s just an excuse to show me ads, I’m not interested.

        We see the shit you’re doing, we don’t like it, and while it might boost some numbers in the short term, it also primes users for the next alternative that won’t just be embraced because it’s new and shiny, but specifically because it’s not the site that used to be great but thought they could abuse their users’ time and attention for greater profits.

        Like at this point, Reddit could do a full 180 and allow 3rd party apps to return, improve their own UX through their site and official apps, and give up on the IPO entirely, but I still won’t be likely to return because all of that just sounds too good to be true and I like it better here than Reddit has been for years.

        I don’t really want to be someone’s product anymore. And if that breaks the whole Internet’s business model, then so be it.

        • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          Yes, that’s the… joke? Idea?

          The only requirement is hosting hardware and visibility. I’m pretty sure that if MS/Mojang hosted an “official” fan-controlled wiki, they’d just have to announce it and the content would be complete in days.