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    If by ‘playing dirty’ you mean ‘committing heinous war crimes’, no that’s not an everyone thing. Sure, the US is also very guilty of it, and needs to be judged accordingly, but that isn’t justification for Russia doing the same and more to Ukraine.

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      1 year ago

      I bet you’re not as “loud” when US war crimes are in question…

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        1 year ago

        I literally just called out the US for its war crimes and said they should be judged for it…

        And I don’t recall even the US going as far as to kidnap thousands of children to strip them of their identities.

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          Yeah, you did… but that is not why we’re here, are we.

          My point is, US liberals like to say “oh yeah, the US is also bad, but take a look at what that guy is doing”… if the US minded their own business from time to time, I’m confident the world would be a much better place to live in.

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            Sure. I’m also confident that if Russia did the same, it would also be a better place to live in too.

            I don’t deny the US does some incredibly messed up shit, hell I don’t deny that the US needs to be tried for war crimes, but that’s not justification for another country to do the same to a third country.

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              Actually, it is. If everyone respected the rules set by the UN, there would probably be no war crimes at all. But one side breaks them, then the other… it’s a slipery slope after that.

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                No it’s not. It’s a shitty excuse. It’d be one thing if Russia was fighting an opponent who was also subjecting their people to war crimes en masse, but that isn’t what’s happening. This is just silly whataboutism, not a moral justification.

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                  There is no moral justification from one side or the other. Everyone does things they’re not proud of. It’s just life. You do shit and live with the conseqences. Everyone does that, even heads of state and their partners. Why they do that? That’s a whole different question and depends on the pros and cons regarding that decision. My best guess is either power, money or political gain. Everyone does it, the US is no different.

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                    1 year ago

                    There is no moral justification from one side or the other.

                    There is. Ukraine is acting in self defense.