Look, the fact they put him under conservatorship rather than adopting him means I don’t give a shit what they say. That mere fact shows they didn’t see him as their son and they were in no hurry to correct that.
And given how much that movie made $138K is shockingly just a pittance. It’s his story, not theirs. And they had him use a family friend as his agent while they used an actual agent if I’m remembering correctly when it came to this movie.
They’ve said the lawyer said it was a problem to try adoption and that the conservatorship was the way to go. Isn’t it very possible they heard that then never looked into it further, thinking the guy gave them good info?
It doesn’t sound like they’ve done anything wrong with the money or anything. I’m sure he’s been invited to every Christmas, etc.
At what point is the piece of paper important if everything else is above board?
Or if their main goal was to get him into Ole Miss without triggering NCAA violations, and if consevatorship was both simpler and sufficient, why look any further into adoption? Just do the less complicated thing.
BOOOOOO… we don’t want your facts when we have arguments based on emotional and biased premises that support our conclusions!!! Get outta here already!
They’ve said the lawyer said it was a problem to try adoption and that the conservatorship was the way to go
Because a simple Google search for state laws will tell you otherwise. Because of his age there was no restriction on him being adopted. It was simple paper work that, IIRC, you dont even have to go to a court hearing for. The paper just gets filed and thats that. The conservatorship was actually more of a process that adopting him would have been.
Absolutely a moroic take, and from a fellow Bengals fan…
My guy, the family total made like $600k including Michael’s share.
Also, when you have money and attorneys, and you bring in a late-teenage into your family that has never had access to money nor has he ever been properly educated on spending, a conservatorship is completely acceptable.
It’s like you saw the Brittany thing and immediately went “conservator bad” without even a moment of critical thought.
Conservatorships are actually extremely good in concept. If the people in control are terrible, then it can be really bad. If they are good people, it can be incredibly beneficial. Don’t be so black and white.
He’s suing the Tuohys for ripping him off. He’s not suing because the Tuohys used a consevatorship over adoption to get him into college (something Oher knew about years ago per his biography). Now the fact that Oher indeed got paid is definitely something his lawyers give a shit about. The prospect of a payday for both them and Oher just sank.
They spent 10s of thousands of their own money on him. They flew him around on a private jet, paid for his food and housing for years. I think that shows a level of care
Look, the fact they put him under conservatorship rather than adopting him means I don’t give a shit what they say. That mere fact shows they didn’t see him as their son and they were in no hurry to correct that.
I think the Tuohys probably had ulterior motives for “adopting” Oher, such as having a talent play for their high school and college.
I’m pretty sure the “adoption” was mainly to circumvent NCAA rules about boosters providing benefits to players. The exception, of course, would be providing to your own child. So they “adopted” Oher so he could play for Ole Miss.
The problem was that if they actually legally adopted Oher, he would be an inheritor of the Tuohy’s estate. So their lawyers came up with the conservatorship idea to be able to say Oher was their son.
So I don’t think the Tuohys are pure and innocent, but I doubt the Tuohy’s used the conservatorship itself for financial gain like signing contracts on Oher’s behalf and keeping the money, like Oher alleged.
Most likely Oher’s agent/lawyer told him there’s no way he got paid his fair share of the movie profits. Let’s sue and try to get some payday.
The money is a pittance because getting a movie made about you is not lucrative. Michael Lewis sold the rights to this movie two times. The first time he sold it, they were paid a flat fee. That fee was $250K split among all of them. That’s the market rate for what a studio is willing to pay for a story like this. It’s very very low.
The first studio never made the movie, so then they sold it the second time. The second time, they instead got a variable fee based on how much the money made at the BO. This time they got $700K (of which, half went to Lewis). That’s almost triple what they got with their fixed deal. They ultimately got a good deal, for something that is not paid very highly
Did you watchtl the movie? It was more about the mom than anything. Also, with movies it’s a complete fool’s errand to look at the end result profits and determine if the deal signed was unjust to anyone, that’s how contracts work in every field of business where the outcome is unknown, it’s a gamble on the movie producer’s part as well. You are ignorant of what people are typically paid for their rights to a story, what he was paid, and each of the family as well which was the same amount, was actually an overpay when compared to what’s typical. These are objective facts, some people appreciate them, others don’t as many have clearly illustrated.
Look, the fact they put him under conservatorship rather than adopting him means I don’t give a shit what they say. That mere fact shows they didn’t see him as their son and they were in no hurry to correct that.
And given how much that movie made $138K is shockingly just a pittance. It’s his story, not theirs. And they had him use a family friend as his agent while they used an actual agent if I’m remembering correctly when it came to this movie.
Idk why this is such a sticking point for people.
They’ve said the lawyer said it was a problem to try adoption and that the conservatorship was the way to go. Isn’t it very possible they heard that then never looked into it further, thinking the guy gave them good info?
It doesn’t sound like they’ve done anything wrong with the money or anything. I’m sure he’s been invited to every Christmas, etc.
At what point is the piece of paper important if everything else is above board?
Or if their main goal was to get him into Ole Miss without triggering NCAA violations, and if consevatorship was both simpler and sufficient, why look any further into adoption? Just do the less complicated thing.
BOOOOOO… we don’t want your facts when we have arguments based on emotional and biased premises that support our conclusions!!! Get outta here already!
Because a simple Google search for state laws will tell you otherwise. Because of his age there was no restriction on him being adopted. It was simple paper work that, IIRC, you dont even have to go to a court hearing for. The paper just gets filed and thats that. The conservatorship was actually more of a process that adopting him would have been.
Absolutely a moroic take, and from a fellow Bengals fan…
My guy, the family total made like $600k including Michael’s share.
Also, when you have money and attorneys, and you bring in a late-teenage into your family that has never had access to money nor has he ever been properly educated on spending, a conservatorship is completely acceptable.
It’s like you saw the Brittany thing and immediately went “conservator bad” without even a moment of critical thought.
Conservatorships are actually extremely good in concept. If the people in control are terrible, then it can be really bad. If they are good people, it can be incredibly beneficial. Don’t be so black and white.
He’s suing the Tuohys for ripping him off. He’s not suing because the Tuohys used a consevatorship over adoption to get him into college (something Oher knew about years ago per his biography). Now the fact that Oher indeed got paid is definitely something his lawyers give a shit about. The prospect of a payday for both them and Oher just sank.
They spent 10s of thousands of their own money on him. They flew him around on a private jet, paid for his food and housing for years. I think that shows a level of care
I think the Tuohys probably had ulterior motives for “adopting” Oher, such as having a talent play for their high school and college.
I’m pretty sure the “adoption” was mainly to circumvent NCAA rules about boosters providing benefits to players. The exception, of course, would be providing to your own child. So they “adopted” Oher so he could play for Ole Miss.
The problem was that if they actually legally adopted Oher, he would be an inheritor of the Tuohy’s estate. So their lawyers came up with the conservatorship idea to be able to say Oher was their son.
So I don’t think the Tuohys are pure and innocent, but I doubt the Tuohy’s used the conservatorship itself for financial gain like signing contracts on Oher’s behalf and keeping the money, like Oher alleged.
Most likely Oher’s agent/lawyer told him there’s no way he got paid his fair share of the movie profits. Let’s sue and try to get some payday.
The money is a pittance because getting a movie made about you is not lucrative. Michael Lewis sold the rights to this movie two times. The first time he sold it, they were paid a flat fee. That fee was $250K split among all of them. That’s the market rate for what a studio is willing to pay for a story like this. It’s very very low.
The first studio never made the movie, so then they sold it the second time. The second time, they instead got a variable fee based on how much the money made at the BO. This time they got $700K (of which, half went to Lewis). That’s almost triple what they got with their fixed deal. They ultimately got a good deal, for something that is not paid very highly
Did you watchtl the movie? It was more about the mom than anything. Also, with movies it’s a complete fool’s errand to look at the end result profits and determine if the deal signed was unjust to anyone, that’s how contracts work in every field of business where the outcome is unknown, it’s a gamble on the movie producer’s part as well. You are ignorant of what people are typically paid for their rights to a story, what he was paid, and each of the family as well which was the same amount, was actually an overpay when compared to what’s typical. These are objective facts, some people appreciate them, others don’t as many have clearly illustrated.