• balderdash@lemmy.zipEnglish
      81·
      2 days ago

      Both Democrats and Republicans serve capitalism, run by oligarchic pedophilic billionaires. We all need to go farther left than our corrupt two-party system.

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      264·
      3 days ago

      It’s not a binary. The establishment democrats have allowed and supported this as long as I’ve been alive. Dems have had every opportunity to use overwhelming majorities of political power to secure the future, to safeguard rights, to pack the courts or create term limits, to enshrine voting rights and equal rights in unbreakable policy.

      Instead we have had decades of Chuck Schumer “writing very stern letters” in opposition to the worst crimes our species has taken part in.

      If they’re both taking donations from the same people, is it really about sides?

      • MissGoldenSocks@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        Oh no, don’t get wrong. Dems are only ever slightly better but I’d vote for Bernie if they, you know, did the whole actually-caring-about-voters-humans thing.

      • thevoidzero@lemmy.worldEnglish
        142·
        3 days ago

        Yes, but when one side is blatantly bad you should completely vote to other option, then that side will either vanish and new party will appear, or they’ll course correct and put someone better. If they always get half the vote whatever they do, then you don’t get a change.

        If you call it unrealistic, look at Nepal’s election results this week (look into what led into the election too if you want more info).

        • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
          85·
          3 days ago

          I am all for voting for the lesser of evils when it’s our only choice, but in the US right now we have an evil group supporting a more evil group. Our answer is to make sure we actually get politically active and engaged, we’ve seen a lot of positive outcomes recently with actual progressive representatives getting seated into positions of power and all it took was actual work on the ground and volunteering and supporting the right people by being informed.

          Most of the horrors we’re dealing with now are a direct result of not enough involvement in both local/state elections as well as midterms over the last couple decades, many of the worst members of house ran without opposition. I’m not saying “both sides are bad, don’t vote” I’m saying we need to flush out ALL the bad, whatever color they have. And we can do it. Despite the doomerism that is rampant right now.

          I am very familiar with Nepal and wouldn’t say there’s enough parallels to the US to really make strong comparisons beyond the broadest concepts like radical reform led by a younger and more connected generation, that IS something we can do here at least.

          • thevoidzero@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 day ago

            I’m guessing you do not know the election thing I’m talking about, in Nepal the new election results (after the protest) basically gave >60% seats to a completely new party, while old powerful parties now have barely any representation, and it’s not even a two party system. If it was two party system the new one would have gotten almost 80-90%.

            So if something similar happened here, given people believe “both evil”, third party would get overwhelming votes, if not at least the “more evil” would barely get any votes. The excuse of “we only have less evil to choose from” does not work if majority of the people still voted the “more evil”, why would a party change if they keep getting votes based on what they are doing.

            Edit: To add to this, even the registered and active members of the old parties voted for the new one. They even took campaign money to campaign for old parties, went to the people and told them to vote for the new party lol.

            This kinda of results comes from not having your whole identity about a political party, which I don’t see it here, and the strong individualism, where people say “well he gave us money last time, I’ll vote him”

  • Tigeroovy@lemmy.caEnglish
    12·
    3 days ago

    But all the right wingers keep saying the economy is going great!

    I dunno where they get that info but they sure keep saying it!

    Good economy means prices go through the roof, right?

    • luciferofastora@feddit.orgEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      I mean, yeah, it means people are spending more money instead of hoarding it in, say, retirement funds, emergency savings, for a down payment, for some long-term dream… They can save up while we can pin it on the other guys, then we drain it all and call that economy!

      What do you mean, that’s not how it works? Line go up!

  • LostWanderer@fedia.io
    17·
    3 days ago

    ROFL There is a pattern, that Republican leadership is often flawed, their short term solutions will enrich their donors…Only for so long before it causes long term damage for everyone else.

    • Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.comEnglish
      36·
      3 days ago

      If you don’t think the democrats are coconspirators at this point in history with all the data available to you, I give up on you.

  • hardcoreufo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    3 days ago

    Missing Regean. Sure he didn’t crash the economy during his presidency directly, but he set it up to fail in the future.

    • DeckPacker@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      2 days ago

      It won’t. Just look at what the 2008 crisis did. It will just mean that you loose and the gain more.