I was curious on how each performed vs ranked teams in college and looked up their stats. I am tired of hearing how much better Williams is as a prospect compared to Fields when he is mainly beating up on lowly teams, while struggling more against proper opponents. Spoiler alert, the NFL will have a good opponent every week.
Fields (2019, 2020) faced 11 ranked teams, the average of the rank of teams was 10.45. His stats are below:
Cmp Pct: 63.17 (avg)
Yds: 254.60 (avg)
TD: 27 (total)
Int: 9 (total)
Rating: 160.01 (avg)
Williams (2022, 2023) I omitted his freshman year to keep it as comparable as possible. He has faced 7 ranked teams so far, the avg rank of those teams being 15.54. Stats below:
Cmp Pct: 68.72
Yds: 304.55
TDs: 17
Int: 6
Rating: 145.74
As it stands now, Williams will face 3 more ranked teams, so these numbers will change, but a few things stood out to me:
1.) Fields faced higher ranked teams than Williams has and has very comparable stats
2.) Fields has a higher rating vs ranked teams than Williams has (If Williams goes nuts vs the upcoming ranked teams, this gap could close)
To conclude, I do not believe for a second that Williams is a “Generational Prospect”. He beats up on lowly teams, and plays in a QB friendly offense under a highly regarded QB friendly HC. I am not a football analyst by any means, but I really feel strongly in my gut that Williams will be an above avg QB in the NFL at best. I do not think he can save the Bears to the extent needed to warrant a #1 pick. Fields was just as good as a prospect coming out of college and the stats back it up. I like Fields. I want him to be the guy. If he isn’t then he isn’t, but I do not want this team to take a slightly different version of him expecting different results. I know these comparisons are not completely apples to apples, but this is what he have. I am sure some NFL Data guys have stats that may refute my findings completely, but numbers aside, the “eye test” is a real metric and Williams, especially these past few games has not passed that test.
I just want to address this one point that has been driving me nuts. NOBODY IS CALLING WILLIAMS “GENERATIONAL.”
There have only been 4 “generational” QB prospects ever: Elway, Manning, Luck, and Lawrence. There are no pundits calling Caleb one of them. As a prospect he is/has been rated on par with Cam Newton and Joe Burrow when they were coming out of college. Which is MUCH better than Fields was rated. This is the opinion of pro football analysts, people who watch film, people who do this for a living that have no bias one way or the other.
I think many people here are suffering from this flawed view that because in their mind Fields and Williams play similarly, that Williams will turn out the same as Fields.
And that may be the case, but it isn’t a certain thing. It’s a false premise that are making people shy away from Williams despite his unreal talent.
Mods make a fucking thread for qb discussion too lmao this is unbearable
I think they both suck.
Did you include sacks in this?
By using your logic let’s look at the box score between trubisky and fields , we can see that Mitch is a much better QB than fields , Mitch is a proven bust therefore fields is just pure dogshit
Bro. We have Bagent. We’re drafting MHJ.
This is asinine