• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
    9·
    4 days ago

    once cops came to arrest me at my house for… attending a PTO meeting.

    so many fucking lied, fist they hid from the door lens thing so I think it’s just a parcel.

    then they came from the sides and asked me to let them in, I said no, they said it was sensitive and private, I said no, they then asked me to step outside to talk to them, they made it sound that my kids died, I refused. after a while (obviously they had no warrant) they finally told my why they came.

    my abusive ex called then saying I was stalking her because I went to a PTO (she does not attend those). When they heard that and offered them proof they left.

    those cunts were going to arrest me for fucking noting before figuring out of they can.

    so many fucking lies.

  • hayvan@piefed.worldEnglish
    18·
    5 days ago

    Prisoner’s dilemma isn’t a dilemma really. The only way out is keeping your muff shut.

    • taiyang@lemmy.world
      8·
      5 days ago

      Well, it’s supposed to be a matter of choosing cooperation over competition, but every time I have students demonstrate blindly they always cooperate- no one ever rats out the other. Granted they’re all women, which research shows are more cooperative on average, so I guess the takeaway is to always have female accomplices.

      • merc@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        5 days ago

        Since cops always lie, it’s probably in how you’re explaining the situation.

        Cops don’t lay out the prisoner’s dilemma honestly and explain your options. They say “Jennie told us what happened, and that she tried to warn you not to do it. So, can you just initial here to say her explanation is correct? Then we can just move on to the next phase.”

        I think women are more cooperative on average, but that cooperation also extends to the cops. I think they’re more likely to want to set the record straight, whereas men might just want to keep their gobs shut.

        • taiyang@lemmy.world
          2·
          5 days ago

          Big difference in real life and lab based prisoners dilemma and I’m sure there’s a billion nuances, although most research is done in the lab. I’ve tried it a few ways, even lowering the stakes to choosing to do dishes or hoping your roommate does it and if no one does it you end up working twice as hard scrubbing, lol.

          Interestingly, your last point is disputed in the literature… but not how you’d expect. Historically, research shows women more likely to comply due to societal reasons, but not when someone they know or care about is targeted. They’re more likely to choose competitive options on behalf of others, at least according to research. I don’t remember the studies themselves, though I could refer you to my courses OER textbook.

          Here’s a slightly off topic fun fact for you, though. In replications of Milgrim’s shock experiments on obedience, women are much less likely to conform when hurting someone. Typically the OG found it to be upwards to 75% conformity, but the least confirming group? Australian women at 16%. These are the women you want when fighting fascism, lol.

          • merc@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            5 days ago

            I wonder what society has the smallest difference between men and women. We’ll have achieved true gender equality when women are just as willing to torture someone as men.

            That also makes me wonder about game theory thought experiments. The prisoner’s dilemma is really just a sort of logic puzzle. Original (male) researchers gave it the name “prisoner’s dilemma” because that was a situation where they could imagine people choosing “cooperate” or “compete” or whatever. It makes me wonder what the dilemma would be called if the original researchers had been female. Maybe there is a relatable situation for women where there’s a realistic “cooperate” / “compete” table you could make. Maybe a situation where your best outfit is one your friend also has, and you don’t both want to wear the same thing, so do you risk showing up in the same outfit, or wear something slightly less fashionable to avoid that situation?

      • CubitOomEnglish
        3·
        4 days ago

        I’m not sure how that works, does it actually do a ‘dd’ with an overwrite (which takes a while) or does it just delete data which can be easily recovered with forensic tools?

          • CubitOomEnglish
            1·
            4 days ago

            I’d have to read their wiki but going off that description, it sounds like a permanent delete of files but not an overwrite, so most of everything would be easy to recover with FOSS tools.

            It would be better than noting but if a state actor got your personal phone I don’t think that would prevent your data from getting into their hands.

            • black0ut@pawb.social
              1·
              4 days ago

              I’m going off of an informed guess, so don’t quote me on this one. But it could be irrecoverably deleted.

              Usually phone storage is encrypted, and it gets decrypted with your PIN. The whole file isn’t actually encrypted with the PIN, it uses way more secure passwords, and it uses different passwords for different pieces of the data. Those passwords are basically impossible to crack, and even if you cracked one, you’d get a very small piece of all the data. Of course, you can’t memorize all those, so they get stored in a sector called the encryption header. That sector is what the PIN decrypts, and everything else is decrypted with the passwords in the header.

              Most of these “quick deletion” systems don’t even delete anything from the drive. They just delete the headers. They’re small enough that you can overwrite them multiple times in a very short time, so you can properly blank them. Without the headers, the rest of the drive is virtually impossible to decrypt, so the data is as good as gone.