There really needs to be a common, open standard for EV charging, it’s honestly one of the biggest things holding back higher adoption. The worst part is that there is one, but the most popular vehicle refuses to implement it because they have control over a huge proprietary network.
Imagine if there was “Ford gas” and “Honda gas”, and even though they were the same fuel, you couldn’t fit the fill nozzle into your car with the other one. That would be absolutely insane.
People hate thinking about dongles and connectors, it just needs to work.
It looks like NACS (or the Tesla connector) is now going to be the common standard. Most automakers have now committed to switching. And at least the SAE is fast tracking making it a standard. Yes, we will have to put up with dongles for a couple of years, but I think this is the best move.
Tesla was colossally stupid to wait so long to make their charger free and open. Previously, it was only available to automakers who opened their patent portfolio in return for access to Tesla’s patent portfolio… But of course, the car company that’s only been around for 10 years doesn’t have as many patents as the car companies that have been around for 50 or 100 years.
I disagree. The supercharging network was a big factor in choosing to buy a Tesla for me. If other manufacturers didn’t change, my next car would also be a Tesla. Now I’ll have other options.
Yes, but they could have been earning profits from mostly-idle SuperCharger stations over the past 5+ years. The investment required to install a 20-station SuperCharger must be immense – for it to be idle so much is a huge lost opportunity to get a faster return on that investment.
The charger fragmentation is annoying, bit you can get adapters. The root problem is that even if you have an adapter, only Tesla cars can charge at Tesla chargers.
The Tesla network communicates with the car to identify the account to charged. Which sounds easy, but really means every car needs to be associated with an account, and Tesla just wouldn’t let non-Tesla cars charge. Now with the Ford and GM deal Ford and GM cars will soon be allowed to charge at their network.
Even when you can charge at a charger, having to have an account for a charger is annoying. Again, getting the article, can you imagine if you needed an app or a seperate prepaid account for Chevron, Shell, Co-op, Mobil, Esso, Petro-Can, Save-On, Domo whatever station you used? Tap to pay is the obvious solution, but most DCFC still push their own app and account. Tesla seems to get a pass because it’s by far the largest network, but they absolutely perpetuate the non-standardization of the EV market for their own benefit.
Even the Ford and GM moving to NACS might not really be the end of this fragmentation. The cynic in me wonders if Ford and GM want to delay adoption of EVs so they can sell more ICE cars.
There really needs to be a common, open standard for EV charging, it’s honestly one of the biggest things holding back higher adoption. The worst part is that there is one, but the most popular vehicle refuses to implement it because they have control over a huge proprietary network.
Imagine if there was “Ford gas” and “Honda gas”, and even though they were the same fuel, you couldn’t fit the fill nozzle into your car with the other one. That would be absolutely insane.
People hate thinking about dongles and connectors, it just needs to work.
It looks like NACS (or the Tesla connector) is now going to be the common standard. Most automakers have now committed to switching. And at least the SAE is fast tracking making it a standard. Yes, we will have to put up with dongles for a couple of years, but I think this is the best move.
Tesla was colossally stupid to wait so long to make their charger free and open. Previously, it was only available to automakers who opened their patent portfolio in return for access to Tesla’s patent portfolio… But of course, the car company that’s only been around for 10 years doesn’t have as many patents as the car companies that have been around for 50 or 100 years.
I disagree. The supercharging network was a big factor in choosing to buy a Tesla for me. If other manufacturers didn’t change, my next car would also be a Tesla. Now I’ll have other options.
Yes, but they could have been earning profits from mostly-idle SuperCharger stations over the past 5+ years. The investment required to install a 20-station SuperCharger must be immense – for it to be idle so much is a huge lost opportunity to get a faster return on that investment.
They were making it back in car sales.
The charger fragmentation is annoying, bit you can get adapters. The root problem is that even if you have an adapter, only Tesla cars can charge at Tesla chargers.
The Tesla network communicates with the car to identify the account to charged. Which sounds easy, but really means every car needs to be associated with an account, and Tesla just wouldn’t let non-Tesla cars charge. Now with the Ford and GM deal Ford and GM cars will soon be allowed to charge at their network.
Even when you can charge at a charger, having to have an account for a charger is annoying. Again, getting the article, can you imagine if you needed an app or a seperate prepaid account for Chevron, Shell, Co-op, Mobil, Esso, Petro-Can, Save-On, Domo whatever station you used? Tap to pay is the obvious solution, but most DCFC still push their own app and account. Tesla seems to get a pass because it’s by far the largest network, but they absolutely perpetuate the non-standardization of the EV market for their own benefit.
Even the Ford and GM moving to NACS might not really be the end of this fragmentation. The cynic in me wonders if Ford and GM want to delay adoption of EVs so they can sell more ICE cars.