“Americans should take responsibility!” But when an American takes responsibility and apologized even though that person probably voted for someone else and is doing what they can to fight back “well fuck you”.
So you want some hard pills to swallow?
If you are mad at Trump, whether you’re from the US or not, but bought things from Amazon, still using Twitter, still using Facebook, still buying from Nestle, still using Uber, still using Robin Hood, or any of the who knows what companies that have given Trump money, then you’re compliant. Especially if you did that before the election. You helped fund this.
You think Americans should rise up in the streets? Actually get up and do something instead of apologize online? Well you know that people can do both, right? Maybe ask people how they are getting involved instead of assuming they aren’t doing anything, and get, if they aren’t, that might get them off of their lazy asses.
You think we should overthrow the government? Ok, where’s your military? Seems like most of the world leaders are willing to take the knee and let that lunatic run rampant because they are scared of our overblown military that, frankly, most of us don’t even want, so why aren’t you fighting? If your fully trained, well equipped military can’t handle the US, how do you expect a bunch of civilians to be able to? Where’s your help if that’s so easy? Sure our country is larger than most and about a third of a continent, but if it should be easy for us then it should be cake for you!
Most of us didn’t vote for the guy, and he’s the least popular president in history, even lower than the second least popular president, which was Jim at his last term. “Oh but a third didn’t vote at all!” But you don’t know why they didn’t vote. Some might’ve been apathetic, but some might’ve been in our bullshit hospitals, and some might’ve been turned away at the polls, or maybe it’s because we’re working three jobs just to keep a roof over our head and enough shit food to keep from starving, who the fuck knows. Dude lost the popular vote both times but because we’ve got a fucked up voting system no one will change once they have won using it, he still won.
I’m not trying to be a dick here, and I know you all are frustrated because of this nut job. We are, too. The country has been taken over by oligarchs and now you care because he’s threatening to invade places with white people.
But you can’t tell people to have empathy and take responsibility then talk shit about them when they do. You can’t have it both ways.
You can’t say that it’s shitty for people to paint with broad strokes and say an entire group of people is the exact same and demonize them, then do the same for an entire population of a country.
You can’t say that it’s entirely on Americans when you’re still giving money to people backing him and aren’t fighting him either.
So maybe instead of bitching about people who feel bad about something they didn’t do apologizing, figure out what you might be doing that’s contributing and stop it.
They still donated millions to the current regime. That is exactly what they mean. Trump is a symptom of western neoliberal capitalism and we are ALL at fault. Where you spend your money matters and people have, in large part, actively ignored a lot of bullshit in the name of comfort. Nestle barely scratches the surface.
Also keeping in mind with the current state of the capitalist hellscape, avoiding companies that supported trump/GOP can be difficult to impossible for a good chunk of people. If the only grocery store that you’re able to get to is Walmart, I am not going to criticize you eating.
Virtually every automaker doung business in North America has kissed trump’s ass at some point in the last decade.
Nestle and Unilever are fucking everywhere and also have many subsidiaries that it can be difficult to figure out if they’re involved in the product you’re using.
Good luck using technology produced by a company that hasn’t supported him or the republican party.
With how badly things are ratfucked, I will applaud any effort to reduce consumption from these companies, because it’s at least a little better than actively supporting them.
In no way I was trying to undermine the point of the previous comment. It’s more of a twisted case of national pride. You can’t just claim the super evil corporation that is trying to take everyone’s water as yours! They are Switzerland’s seat at the super villain table.
Not to be salty, but I’m curious, do you have random people on the Internet assuming you’re in favor of child slavery and think that all Swedes think water shouldn’t be a human right?
Fucking keyboard warriors telling us “just start a civil war, why haven’t you done it already” as if grabbing a gun and executing your neighbors is the easiest thing in the world.
I’d love to go my whole life without ever having to so much as slap someone. But the rest of lemmy seems convinced that “American == gun owner” and that we should have been cutting each other down in the streets since November 2024
I’m all for resisting ICE and standing up to them, but nuance is dead. People take that as me saying go shooting. I’m saying group together, don’t break the group, and don’t let THEM break it either.
That’s the actual solution, we outnumber them by such a huge margin that just standing together and telling them to fuck off is our best bet. They’re cowards, it doesn’t take a lot to make them back down.
I didn’t think you were suggesting violent solutions, I just also wanted to vent about the people who are like “wHy aREN’T AmERicAnS DoiNG MoRE?” and acting like because we haven’t gunned down Trump and most of Congress that we’re complicit
Oh nah, wasn’t saying you were telling me to be violent. Just dunking on those who outside the country want to see our bodies lying in the streets on the news. They say WE’RE violent but they aren’t ANY better.
as if grabbing a gun and executing your neighbors is the easiest thing in the world.
I just wanted to say this is not the way and is wrong.
It’s not people’s neighbours that need to be going after.
It about 600 people.
That’s it.
Then you do it again if the next group doesn’t make things right immediately.
You can give them a choice. Ask them to resign or face the guillotine.
That 600 people are the 3 branches of government and the Supreme Court.
435 members of Congress. 100 Senators. POTUS and his appointees.
Again it’s not people’s neighbours that need to be removed post haste.
And yes there are good people in that 600. That’s why you ask them to resign first. They can run again after the people have decided the smoke has cleared.
I know this isn’t going to happen nor is it as simple as 600 individuals. But those 600ish people are the problem. There are other and more problems but you fix those 600 and you can correct course
Sure and I’m sick of I’m sorry I never voted for him. I don’t care and there is no blue states either look at how many people in blue states voted for Trump. Just because he didn’t win your state doesn’t mean that a lot of people didn’t vote for him.
These comments from people saying that every single American is an evil monster because of their government are displaying the exact same hatred and ignorance that allows fascism to thrive. Which explains why far-right politicians have been gaining power all over the world. Watch your backs, people from other countries looking down their noses at the US - you’re next if you don’t do something about your problems at home, like you’re saying Americans should do. You haven’t been doing a very good job so far.
How is apologizing for something you didn’t do taking responsibility? It’s just irrational. Of course Greenlanders are tired of empty hypocrisy. They are scared af
It’s only hypocrisy if you assume the US is a monolith. Most us citizens don’t want a war and don’t want to do anything to Greenland and think this is insane. There’s some in favor of it because they own oil companies or are brainwashed psychopaths. Those are two very different groups of people and saying that the people who feel shitty about the actions of the psychos are hypocrites is rubbing salt into the wound when they are trying to express sympathy
I’m fucking sick of watching Americans still use these services, buy these products. It’s fu king infuriating to the point where I’m saying shit to strangers outside. Stop supporting the boot on your neck!
Most Americans won’t give up the slightest bit of comfort, and I’m bout to start throwing hands.
For the down voters, wah wah ur poor Amazon, lazy fucks .
“Americans should take responsibility!” But when an American takes responsibility and apologized even though that person probably voted for someone else and is doing what they can to fight back “well fuck you”.
So you want some hard pills to swallow?
If you are mad at Trump, whether you’re from the US or not, but bought things from Amazon, still using Twitter, still using Facebook, still buying from Nestle, still using Uber, still using Robin Hood, or any of the who knows what companies that have given Trump money, then you’re compliant. Especially if you did that before the election. You helped fund this.
You think Americans should rise up in the streets? Actually get up and do something instead of apologize online? Well you know that people can do both, right? Maybe ask people how they are getting involved instead of assuming they aren’t doing anything, and get, if they aren’t, that might get them off of their lazy asses.
You think we should overthrow the government? Ok, where’s your military? Seems like most of the world leaders are willing to take the knee and let that lunatic run rampant because they are scared of our overblown military that, frankly, most of us don’t even want, so why aren’t you fighting? If your fully trained, well equipped military can’t handle the US, how do you expect a bunch of civilians to be able to? Where’s your help if that’s so easy? Sure our country is larger than most and about a third of a continent, but if it should be easy for us then it should be cake for you!
Most of us didn’t vote for the guy, and he’s the least popular president in history, even lower than the second least popular president, which was Jim at his last term. “Oh but a third didn’t vote at all!” But you don’t know why they didn’t vote. Some might’ve been apathetic, but some might’ve been in our bullshit hospitals, and some might’ve been turned away at the polls, or maybe it’s because we’re working three jobs just to keep a roof over our head and enough shit food to keep from starving, who the fuck knows. Dude lost the popular vote both times but because we’ve got a fucked up voting system no one will change once they have won using it, he still won.
I’m not trying to be a dick here, and I know you all are frustrated because of this nut job. We are, too. The country has been taken over by oligarchs and now you care because he’s threatening to invade places with white people.
But you can’t tell people to have empathy and take responsibility then talk shit about them when they do. You can’t have it both ways.
You can’t say that it’s shitty for people to paint with broad strokes and say an entire group of people is the exact same and demonize them, then do the same for an entire population of a country.
You can’t say that it’s entirely on Americans when you’re still giving money to people backing him and aren’t fighting him either.
So maybe instead of bitching about people who feel bad about something they didn’t do apologizing, figure out what you might be doing that’s contributing and stop it.
Boycott the USA.
Hey, that’s our shitty company! Should still be boycotted though.
Greetings from Switzerland.
They still donated millions to the current regime. That is exactly what they mean. Trump is a symptom of western neoliberal capitalism and we are ALL at fault. Where you spend your money matters and people have, in large part, actively ignored a lot of bullshit in the name of comfort. Nestle barely scratches the surface.
Also keeping in mind with the current state of the capitalist hellscape, avoiding companies that supported trump/GOP can be difficult to impossible for a good chunk of people. If the only grocery store that you’re able to get to is Walmart, I am not going to criticize you eating.
Virtually every automaker doung business in North America has kissed trump’s ass at some point in the last decade.
Nestle and Unilever are fucking everywhere and also have many subsidiaries that it can be difficult to figure out if they’re involved in the product you’re using.
Good luck using technology produced by a company that hasn’t supported him or the republican party.
With how badly things are ratfucked, I will applaud any effort to reduce consumption from these companies, because it’s at least a little better than actively supporting them.
In no way I was trying to undermine the point of the previous comment. It’s more of a twisted case of national pride. You can’t just claim the super evil corporation that is trying to take everyone’s water as yours! They are Switzerland’s seat at the super villain table.
Not to be salty, but I’m curious, do you have random people on the Internet assuming you’re in favor of child slavery and think that all Swedes think water shouldn’t be a human right?
I’m also still very tired of hearing people outside the USA telling us to start spilling each other’s blood willy nilly.
Fucking keyboard warriors telling us “just start a civil war, why haven’t you done it already” as if grabbing a gun and executing your neighbors is the easiest thing in the world.
I’d love to go my whole life without ever having to so much as slap someone. But the rest of lemmy seems convinced that “American == gun owner” and that we should have been cutting each other down in the streets since November 2024
Well it has been what Americans have been saying for decades. We need guns to protect us from the government.
I’m all for resisting ICE and standing up to them, but nuance is dead. People take that as me saying go shooting. I’m saying group together, don’t break the group, and don’t let THEM break it either.
That’s the actual solution, we outnumber them by such a huge margin that just standing together and telling them to fuck off is our best bet. They’re cowards, it doesn’t take a lot to make them back down.
I didn’t think you were suggesting violent solutions, I just also wanted to vent about the people who are like “wHy aREN’T AmERicAnS DoiNG MoRE?” and acting like because we haven’t gunned down Trump and most of Congress that we’re complicit
Oh nah, wasn’t saying you were telling me to be violent. Just dunking on those who outside the country want to see our bodies lying in the streets on the news. They say WE’RE violent but they aren’t ANY better.
I just wanted to say this is not the way and is wrong.
It’s not people’s neighbours that need to be going after.
It about 600 people.
That’s it.
Then you do it again if the next group doesn’t make things right immediately.
You can give them a choice. Ask them to resign or face the guillotine.
That 600 people are the 3 branches of government and the Supreme Court.
435 members of Congress. 100 Senators. POTUS and his appointees.
Again it’s not people’s neighbours that need to be removed post haste.
And yes there are good people in that 600. That’s why you ask them to resign first. They can run again after the people have decided the smoke has cleared.
I know this isn’t going to happen nor is it as simple as 600 individuals. But those 600ish people are the problem. There are other and more problems but you fix those 600 and you can correct course
Sure and I’m sick of I’m sorry I never voted for him. I don’t care and there is no blue states either look at how many people in blue states voted for Trump. Just because he didn’t win your state doesn’t mean that a lot of people didn’t vote for him.
I’m increasingly realizing we never had any allies, we had sniveling yes countries that probably all need bloody mouths.
These comments from people saying that every single American is an evil monster because of their government are displaying the exact same hatred and ignorance that allows fascism to thrive. Which explains why far-right politicians have been gaining power all over the world. Watch your backs, people from other countries looking down their noses at the US - you’re next if you don’t do something about your problems at home, like you’re saying Americans should do. You haven’t been doing a very good job so far.
How is apologizing for something you didn’t do taking responsibility? It’s just irrational. Of course Greenlanders are tired of empty hypocrisy. They are scared af
It’s only hypocrisy if you assume the US is a monolith. Most us citizens don’t want a war and don’t want to do anything to Greenland and think this is insane. There’s some in favor of it because they own oil companies or are brainwashed psychopaths. Those are two very different groups of people and saying that the people who feel shitty about the actions of the psychos are hypocrites is rubbing salt into the wound when they are trying to express sympathy
Have you even read the post? It’s all just hypocrisy as long as agent orange is in the air
I’m fucking sick of watching Americans still use these services, buy these products. It’s fu king infuriating to the point where I’m saying shit to strangers outside. Stop supporting the boot on your neck!
Most Americans won’t give up the slightest bit of comfort, and I’m bout to start throwing hands.
For the down voters, wah wah ur poor Amazon, lazy fucks .