• TheHolm@aussie.zone
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    1 year ago

    I have no reason to feel a victim. I just do not want make aboriginals a victims again, many of them are in deep shit already.

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      Many of the reasons they’re “in deep shit already” come back to governments making unilateral decisions for easy media and corporate donor ‘reasons’ - specifically targeting Aboriginal people (as allowed under the constitution) rather than listening to what the communities actually need or want.

      Hence the Voice. But now we can keep doing the same old shit, targeting the same old Aboriginal communities, but 60% of the population can keep kidding themselves there’s no victims and they’re absolutely not racists at all, oh no no.

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        No one says the was not a victims, but these guys are dead as well as one who did wrong to them. Task in hand it not give some better treatment but give all everyone same treatment. Remote communities need help - absolutely - but not because they aboriginal but because they in trouble. And do you really think that if voice passed it would help average aboriginal? Nope, it will harm them tremendously, there is reason why they mostly voted no.

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                1 year ago

                I did many times. Referendum was about First nation which is race. It make it racist, you can’t interpreter it in any other way.

                • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zoneOP
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                  And do you really think that if voice passed it would help average aboriginal? Nope, it will harm them tremendously, there is reason why they mostly voted no.

                  You didn’t explain this view, you just treat it as fact - that’s not how a debate works, both sides need to agree on facts, otherwise they are not facts

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                    Sorry. I have explained it other thread of this discussion. Make them special will give everyone who discriminate them are real “constitutional” reason to do so, which will will hurt average guy. Been “special” only good if you hold power. Plus I have doubt that “the voices” will be voice of average guy, not some Aboriginal elite, but this is my pure speculation.

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                  Repeat after me: It. Is. Not. Racist. To. Make. The. Playing. Field. Level. For. All.

                  And furthermore, mentioning race doesn’t make anything racist. Was Mabo racist?

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                    Any differential treatment which mention race is racist, by definition. Even it intended to To. Make. The. Playing. Field. Level." but i fail to see how it can be in this case.

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              No it isn’t. It’s the first set of information that has been spoon fed to you and you haven’t realised we’ve been educating you cos you are so close minded and dense that you can’t see the forest for the trees. I wish you the best in life, but I can see the future headline now “immigrant dies due to weapons grade stupidity”.

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                  I’ve given you more than enough arguments. Instead you ignore anything I say and try to say that it is me who’s the racist. I’m only replying in kind to what you’re saying. As the saying goes “you meet one arsehole in your day, great you met an arsehole. But you meet arseholes all day, well, then may be some introspection is required”. I suggest you look inward and try and move away from being a backwards idiot, I wouldn’t be surprised if the idiocy you’ve expressed in this thread doesn’t get you punched in the face otherwise.