• Prunebutt@feddit.de
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    I hate how lemmy is starting to get flooded with generative AI pics. It’s the “lol, so random!”-meme of the current age, but with even less artistic/comedic value.

    Edit: typo

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      You say that because you are old. Next you will also say something like “the important think is to be young in the heart/head”.

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          I don’t think that’s true. It’s just another tool. Using it to get a good result takes more skill, practice, and patience than using it to get an okay result.

          That’s not to say it is equivalent in terms of skill required to oil paint, for example. But it really does stink of being obstinately against change for no reason other than it being change.

          I imagine similar complaints were made when photoshop first started to rise in popularity and use.

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            I agree: it is a tool. And maybe you might at some point be able to create something worthwhile with it. But I’ve yet to see something wwrthwhile.

            The main way “generative AI” is currently being used is by giving some idea some kind of form. If the original idea is just lame, or has been done to death (like a pixar poster of insert any atocricy here) : it will show.

            If you think that AI is a shortcut to replace a creative idea, you will not be able to get any art from it.

            You can also see that in the weird AI bro behavior, when they refuse to share their prompts: In any traditional art project people are glad to share their techniques. But AI bros realize that there’s so little effort involved that they are overly protective of their prompts so that people may not find out how low effort their “creativite” process actually is.

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              But I’ve yet to see something wwrthwhile.

              So, you don’t like the art you’ve seen made with AI. That’s fine. Art is subjective; just because you don’t like a medium doesn’t mean it’s not creative. There are plenty of mediums and styles I don’t personally like either.

              If you think that AI is a shortcut to replace a creative idea, you will not be able to get any art from it.

              That’s not contentious, in the sense of you won’t come up with any interesting art. My toddler’s scribble on a page isn’t interesting art either, but it’s still art.

              As for the ‘AI bro’ thing - I haven’t run in to this, but yes it does sound like the ones that don’t want to share their prompts are insecure. It’s very normal for most artists to share their media and techniques with their piece; most AI art I’ve seen, particularly the better more interesting stuff, the person has shared their prompts and the models they’ve used.p

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            Stop being so dramatic and conspiratorial. The pushback is because it sucks. AI can’t be genuinely creative.

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              Conspiratorial? What?

              Large Language Models cannot be genuinely creative; I agree. The people using them can. Why is that disagreeable?

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            @Risk @Prunebutt, the risk is when we lose our own capabilities and intelligence, becoming dependent on AI. This has already happened with previous technologies. Who still has the handwriting of our grandparents with the introduction of the keyboard and word processors? Who can still do simple sums mentally for purchases at the supermarket, without using a calculator? With the introduction of smartphones, our lives have become completely dependent on these gossips in practically every aspect, social as well as professional.
            Seeing this evolution, I always think of the humans in the movie Wall-e as the end result of this path. It is not that AI is going to fight and subjugate humanity, it does not need to do so, since we subordinate ourselves to it voluntarily, even today we would be unable to survive a week without our technology.
            It happens when we start using tools, not for what they are, but as crutches for our own inability and intelligence, instead of using them for our own development.

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              I think this is quite a hyperbolic analysis.

              Yeah, good quality handwriting is less prevalent now than it has been in the past - but that’s not because of a loss of artistry, but because that mode of written communication is less important. But there are still plenty of calligraphy artists out there, and are perhaps more highly prized now than they were before.

              Human creativity doesn’t stop, we just progress to new tools when the previous ones can be automated. And yet, even then, we still have people that go back to use the old tools for the simple joy of using them.

              Don’t mistake delegation for subordination.

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                @Risk, i don’t confuse it,but an excess of delegacion IS at the end subordination. The calligraphy is only one example of a general tendency.
                Of course there are people who continue to practice it and are sought after, precisely because there are few of them. But the vast majority do not have a writing that can be defined as such and many can no longer do so without using a spell checker, moving to a poor general vocabulary.
                Human beings are very comfortable having others do their work and this with new technologies is becoming more pronounced, even with AI that turns on the lights or TV on command, because the 3 steps to the switch is too much effort.

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                  But by delegating stuff we free up our time for other things.

                  If you’re making an argument that humans are tending towards being less creative, then I’d need to see some evidence to support that assertion. Because from my perspective we get more creative the more free time we have.

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        That’s agist and stupid. The idea is valid or not, the person who said it is irrelevant.

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    Boyfriend is not paying attention to his 3 armed, 6 fingered girlfriend who is groping his ass, because he is distracted by a blueberry pancake dough dispenser?

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    I still believe generation beta humor will be AIs posting random stuff and everyone laughing and no one admits they don’t get it.

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      I don’t understand this take. Yeah, it’s shitty as fuck right now, but if you’ve been paying attention at all you’d understand how fast things are moving. It sucks today, sure, but in 6 months? A year? 5 years?

      Anyway in my opinion we really fucked up with this AI thing.

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        The deal is that AI is only good at remixing what’s already done. AI is never gonna be able to make an artistic desicion or create a new thing. What AI is good for is menial tasks like making ground textures and it still fucks it up.

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      It might be shit now, that’s true for every new tech at its infancy. Let it cook for a while.

      I’ve been messing with Stable Diffusion and LLaMA this whole year and it’s really fun stuff.

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    Just dont look at the eyes… Or the hands… Or the arms… Or the legs…

    Or really all of it

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    So… She wants the uncooked blueberry pancake and he wants the ant cheese board.

    e: removed silly little punctuation error

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      I like her waist-arm-nub going to grab his butt, but I don’t like how deeply it’s made me think about the configuration of his groins (best conclusion I can come to is single butt and double genitalia, one set each side of his front leg).

      Definitely not a sentence I ever thought I would think of, let alone write lol

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    In a 1000 years, the robots that take over after us will think this is really funny.

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    I just started reading the Culture series by Iain M. Banks, I shudder to think this is how it started.