‘Nothing is changing’ — Reddit is denying a report from The Washington Post that it might force users to log in to see content if it can’t reach deals with AI companies::Reddit initially denied a report from The Washington Post that it might force users to log in to see content. However, the Post says it may still block search crawlers, and Reddit didn’t deny to The Verge that it may do so.
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Nothing is changing says company that keeps changing everything
After saying they won’t
Yeah, Reddit lies constantly. About everything. I guarantee they just weren’t ready to announce this yet but they will by the end of the year. It’s not the first time they’ve pulled this routine.
If they haven’t reached deals with AI companies by limiting the API, then why haven’t they returned access to third party app developers? They obviously see how far their engagement and quality has dropped.
I won’t use their official app, ever.
Even if they return to the old standard, they have shown to be too unreliable and ready for scummy corporate decisions.
I have an account for hockey. Laptop only via Firefox, eat my donkey spez
I have never understood this reasoning. Obviously the few determined actors for training data will just start scraping for content.
Didn’t Steve Huffman praise Elon Musk and say that his handling of Twitter was an example for him? Perfectly natural for him to think it would somehow be a good idea to make account creation mandatory on Reddit.
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The little bug-eyed, recessed-chin pedophile is so out of touch.
Narwhal just went behind the paywhal for me to today. So, I guess I’m finally done with Reddit now? I’ve been in there at least 14 years. It’s just wild to me that I lost Twitter and Reddit after so much time.
I still use RedReader for general stuff, and rss feeds of subs for porn, and I’ll check the bird once a week for people I follow for the same reason. But for reddit, my few hours a day has become a fraction, and even a decent amount of the people I watch on both platforms are either shifting elsewhere (yay) or just closing up shop (very not yay).
I was ~11 years in for reddit, and like 9 or so with birdy.
I’ve been using Firefox Nightly with the the old.reddit redirect addon and Ublock. It’s not great having to navigate around the desktop site on a mobile screen, but it’s better than the app.
I’ve noticed that old.reddit.com has a convenient bug where it won’t recognize keystrokes on mobile devices (even forcing desktop version). What a coincidence.
Edit: at least for me on iPhone running the latest OS and my Galaxy Tab Ultra with Chrome, Firefox, and Samsungs Internet (so Chrome again). I assumed this means it happens to others and isn’t limited to just me.
Anyway, glad I’ve severed almost all activity from Reddit. I wish a few niche communities would move over (like Steam Deck, which is really a shadow of its subreddit) but I understand.
I went with Narwhal for a while too. I’ve been using Lemmy on browser but still ended up on Reddit on mobile because I don’t know if Lemmy has any apps. One day I opened up Narwhal with a message about some date it’d end up being paid and I immediately uninstalled. Reddit isn’t at all worth paying for as a user. There’s literally nothing I’ve regretted about not going on Reddit; Lemmy still has plenty of pages of content to mindlessly scroll through.
Heaps of reddit app ports are on Lemmy. Not sure about iOS, but on Android there is sync and boost which we’re two of the bigger ones.
If Relay came to Lemmy I would happily pay $ to access.
For iOS: I fully recommend Thunder or Memmy. Very complete (I’m not a mod so perhaps lacking there?).
For Android: Sync is just so perfect. Feels like Reddit before it was overtaken with low-effort Facebook exiles. Boost is great as well. I know there are tons of apps for Android in particular but both of those just feel right at home for me.
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Sync has been my alternative coming from RiF. Very clean experience
Voyager for Lemmy is essentially Apollo
Lemmy has a bunch of good apps.
I really like the customizability on Jerboa for Lemmy on Android. Smaller font with list view gives me strong old school Alien Blue vibes.
I’ve been using Liftoff! app, it’s pretty good with a few bugs
Oh Narwhal was still going? Relay went paywal on the 1st.
I’ve been using the Geddit app on Android to keep an eye on a handful of subs. It loads RSS feeds and shows them sort of like a 3rd-party app of yore. Obviously there’s no participation, and it only shows a small subset of comments. But it’s good for staying up to date with news and generally weaning myself off the platform.
Reddit, Twitter, Netflix, YouTube all in a short time enshitificated.
Same, got the prompt to pay for narwhal, I’m not gonna do it. Will only Reddit on a pc now.
Man, narwhal was fucking trash, before and after the redesign. Would freeze and get stuck inside videos and posts, just awful
And now it’s pay walled lmao. I used it to follow a few communities that haven’t migrated but when I got the pop up asking me if I’d start paying in a few weeks or whatever and I said fuck your and uninstalled that piece of shit
I was done as soon as the Boost port was available to download. Reddit has sucked for a long time. The spez bullshit was just the last straw.
I’ll tell ya one thing that’s changed. I deleted my posts and comments, along with my account last night after being inactive since June. Idiots
Did you use a program to scrub that? I haven’t been on since June, but I wouldn’t mind twisting the knife a bit.
Redact. I will say, I was on there over 11 years and it took almost 2 hours for it to wipe my comments
Use ViolentMonkey/GreaseMonkey scripts in Firefox.
It will rewrite your comments with gibberish, and then deletes them automatically. Just open your reddit account comments page, turn on the script, and watch, or walk away.
Completely free.
I still use RedReader on occasion on mobile, and then every few days turn the script on from my PC, and repeat as needed
Check via Google, Reddit is known for recovering deleted comments against user consent.
It would be pure foolishness to trust Reddit and its management.
In the future, they will be seen by all in a somewhat similar light of failure emitted by Twitter
Dude this would kill the only reason I ever visit this site.
Reddit: Nothing’s changing. Also Reddit: It’s changing.
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They 100% are. Without anyone’s consent. Lemmy instances will even send all the data to your own instance’s db! No scraping required even!
I haven’t had a close look at lemmy.world recent TOS, but I’d be adding a revenue share clause to any posts used to train models originating from their instance’s community
I don’t really care if they use my data in the slightest. I’m putting it out publicly on the internet, so w/e
The securest way to know reddit will do something is if they claim they will not do something. Spez is constantly lying.
DOOOO IT!!!
Too bad builtin reddit search completely sucks.
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Fuck Huffman
If this had been what they did to start with, I’d still be there. I was always logged in
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Washington Post reported Friday that Reddit might cut off Google and force users to log in to Reddit itself to read anything if it can’t reach deals with generative AI companies to pay for its data.
The Washington Post’s report wasn’t just focused on Reddit — it’s about how more than 535 news organizations have opted to block their content from being scraped by companies like OpenAI to help train products such as ChatGPT.
According to the original report, Reddit is in negotiations with AI companies to get them to pay to use its data, and if it couldn’t strike those agreements, it might require logins to see content.
That could have the knock-on effect of preventing Reddit results from showing up in Google searches.
(In my June interview with Reddit CEO Steve Huffman, he said that “we’re in talks” with AI companies about the pricing changes.
X, formerly Twitter, has also implemented new pricing tiers for accessing its API, and X owner Elon Musk blamed data scraping by AI startups as a way to justify the reading limits implemented this summer.
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