Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don’t get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.

Then on Oct 1, they threw up a “You’re using an Ad Blocker” overlay on videos. I’d use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn’t have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.

Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.

Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.

Now all I see is this.

Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.

I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can’t view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.

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    11 months ago

    No it isn’t. Youtube made itself indispensable with subsidized service so it never made financial sense to self host and organizations were forced to rely on a service google is now holding hostage while spying on you.

    They can all choke on cocks.

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      11 months ago

      See this is where I don’t agree with you at all. There are no organizations forced to rely on YouTube. If you don’t like using YouTube there’s plenty of other contenders, like Vimeo. And if the response to that is a complaint that Vimeo doesn’t offer good service or XYZ then really doesn’t that mean that YouTube offers better service?

      If it doesn’t make financial sense to start your own YouTube or self-hosting operation, then why are people complaining about having to use YouTube?

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        11 months ago

        It doesn’t make financial sense because YouTube has been offering the service below cost.

        Organizations which used to host their own videos, such as colleges, no longer do so now everyone has to have their data harvested to see any video anyone wants to put up.

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          Organizations which used to host their own videos, such as colleges, no longer do

          I wonder why that might be… maybe because free video hosting is incredibly expensive?

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              11 months ago

              Honestly, it seems like a fair trade to me. I get to use an expensive service without paying for it, in exchange they build a profile on my activity.

              If that doesn’t seem like a fair trade to you, you can always pay for YT Premium.

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                11 months ago

                But everyone else is forced to have their data harvested because everyone else is pressured to move their content to a subsidized walled garden.

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                  11 months ago

                  They’re only “pressured” to do so because doing anything else is prohibitively expensive.

                  Consider the fact that YouTube ran at a net loss for about a decade before having their first-ever profitable quarter. That’s the reason nobody else can host a free video sharing platform with any degree of reliability, because most other companies can’t afford that sort of long-term loss before reaching that critical mass where it actually becomes sustainable.

                  If you were to try to build a similar platform without any sort of subsidization, you’ll be out of money almost immediately, and you won’t have your video platform any longer.

                  It’s a necessary evil. If there was a better option, somebody would have thought of it by now, and there would be an actual competitor to YouTube somewhere.

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                    11 months ago

                    I’m not talking about free video hosting.

                    I’m saying no one puts anything on paid hosting anymore because a company that can afford to ignore cost for decades offered a below cost service so now if you wish to view anything anywhere everyone puts it on the platform that harvest your data. Because no one put things on free hosting there are fewer options for it forcing people deeper into the walled garden.

                    It’s fucked up and anything bad that happens to youtube is deserved.

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          11 months ago

          Alternatively, those individuals could choose to pay money to not get ads served and have useless data harvested if they’re privacy oriented.

          Also, I know for a fact that plenty of organizations still host their own videos. Say what you will but I’ll take a YouTube lecture over a Panopto one any day of the week - the Panopto one sucks bollocks lol.

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              11 months ago

              Everyone and their mom harvests my data on the internet. In fact, businesses are gonna harvest data about their paying customers, internet or not. People who really care about privacy will create profiles that don’t expose information they consider to be sensitive.

              I don’t see a picture of the average internet user both being incredibly savvy about the harvest of their personal information and being privacy oriented but also somehow willing to pay for services. Content providers definitely enact shady policies but users aren’t exactly angels either.

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                  11 months ago

                  I’m not a fan of advertising and this modern capitalist bullshit either, but I’ll tolerate the things that I find reasonable, and I think YouTube is definitely more reasonable than what Netflix and the rest of the streaming sites are trying to pull off. Though I guess they aren’t really the same thing since Netflix doesn’t operate at a loss intentionally.