Saw this in a scicomm feed. Hope it reaches someone. ❤️
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I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.
I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.
My favorite JFK conspiracy is that no one killed him. His head just did that.
I like to imagine that he entered a Mandela trance that gave him a peek into our timeline where he saw RFK Jr. Then his head blew up.
The Mandela Effect is the weirdest conspiracy theory to me as that fucker was never off the TV during my teens. No-one would even have heard of him if he’d died before all that.
Also Bearenstien bears is real, I’ve seen the VHS!
Except another guy in the car also died
Head not worth shooting i guess, even the worm inside it is found dead, probably from suicide.
The worm is calling the shots here.
You know, there’s something called “rule of three”…
the worms give him immunity.cant assasinated more than 1 worm at a time.
Nor John Kennedy, who’s even more of an asshole.
Now, I’m not saying everything isn’t a shitshow. Clearly it is. Based on the general insanity, I am 100% in favor of getting vaccinated sooner rather than later. But “might” != “will”.
I’m quite glad you included article links. Careful, though; the image posted is how propaganda works. By itself, it is unsourced, apart from the Unambiguous Science logo at the bottom (which could have been put there by anyone). UnSci refers to itself as
No sensational headlines, no politicizing of science. Just evidence based information.
And as noted early in this comment, the image says “will revoke” while the reporting says “might/may revoke”.
Yah while I’m aware of the situation and what’s been said, what has been said wasn’t exactly from a highly reputable source, it wasn’t even from the DHHS, it was someone who “talked to” RFK, and somehow every news outlet picked it up.
That all said, it could indeed happen, the administration is unhinged and a spike in covid deaths would be great for their plan of manufactured chaos, but they also have a much longer track-record of leaking crazy implications in order to fuck with the valuation of stocks.
They may also be planning to do the Chairman Trump thing again and leverage their threats for a 10% cut of Moderna and Pfizer’s profits. I just don’t see them cutting off a profitable company for no other reason than an-anti vax narrative they never really cared about, and just pushed to fleece the country’s stupidest fucks.
All in all, it’s way too unverified and unpredictable to know for sure what’s going to happen, however this infographic/poster thing is really terrible. It’s framed like an announcement, posted in first-person, and has no links or sources. It’s so terrible I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone in the administration made it and leaked it also.
Go get your boosters/vaccines and your kid’s vaccines anyway, it shouldn’t take this to do the right thing.
You complete me.
And you complete a Snickers!
I guess they’re not authorizing the licensure of them, so that’s why it’s so tentative. He’s doing the trump vague thing, so you can’t go after him directly and then slowly take things away.
The rise in COVID comes as the Trump administration has delayed the rollout of the updated vaccine for the fall. Last year, the federal government had fully green-lighted the annual reformulation of the vaccine by June, in time for a rollout that began in September.
This year, however, the Department of Health and Human Services led by vaccine skeptic Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has in effect delayed the rollout of this fall’s COVID shot.
“Updated COVID-19 vaccines have been delayed this year due to federal policy changes, and we are awaiting [Food and Drug Administration] licensure of this season’s products,” the L.A. County Department of Public Health said in a statement to The Times. “This means availability in September may be later than what people experienced last fall.”
The California Department of Public Health also warned that because the federal government hasn’t made decisions on licensure approvals and recommendations, “availability and timing of specific COVID-19 vaccine products may be more limited and occur on a later schedule.”
I know you’re using markdown but it’s coming through as “exclamation point equals”. Lemmy supports the full on character i.e. ≠
I live in Ontario, Canada. I can just walk in to the local pharmacy and get the Covid, flu, and RSV vaccine for free.
The True North Strong and Free (except Alberta, their government are fascist Trump bootlickers.)
Please send help - an Albertan
We can help ourselves. They are dumb and will divide their vote again at the next election.
Exactly. I know a few people who voted for her… now they hate her guts and don’t want to see her get reelected.
RSV is available in the states, but you would have to be in the risk groups and its not eligible to everyone.
Stay strong Canada! I hope in a few years people will just think of Canada when you say “America” because it’s the major civilized country in North America
The GOP isn’t just a metaphorical plague anymore.
“Pestilence” is such an underused word. They’re a lot like locusts.
government of pollution
Can someone from the US take a trip to Canada specifically to get vaccines? I have lupus and I really don’t wanna die from covid. I live in an area where people are ride or die Trumpers and don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves.
At the rate that things are devolving, if you have the means, you may consider emigrating somewhere else. And maybe not Canada because we’ll probably be invaded by your country in the following years, or months.
I don’t have the means to completely leave. I wish I did
Lupus is on the list of conditions that merit a vaccine for the under 65 crowd, since it is an autoimmune disease with immune compromising medications.
It’s actually a pretty long list. Being overweight (BMI over 25), having ADHD, depression, being sedentary, being a current or former smoker, having substance misuse disorders, along with all the other ones you’d expect, like asthma, cancer, heart disease, transplant recipients, and anyone who needs a careworker.
As of now, you can self certify as being in one of these groups (you don’t need a doctor’s note). And your doctor can still recommend it for you if you’re not on the list, as long as you don’t have an anti vaxxer doc.
Oh awesome. Hopefully they don’t ban vaccines for that list. Last time I had a simple cold I was almost hospitalized…
LPT: Go get a shot, now.
Saw the US flag, read it without the “a”
How soon before we get vaccinations with thoughts and prayers ?
Prayers should be applied topically or to worn armor, written on parchment and attached to a stamped wax seal infused with holy oils.
Thoughts are often immunosuppressive and should be guarded against with tinfoil headwear or nerve staples.
🇨🇦 we approved 'em here. And they’re being made here now, too.
I’d say come visit in October, but maybe don’t fly in those big aluminum petri dishes!
They actually make some planes from composites now. You should see the 787! Then again American made Boeing planes tend to crash or have other safety issues so maybe don’t go and see one.
After seeing this, I attempted to check CVS for availability for myself and son since he just started back to school and hubby is immunocompromised from chemo, but they had a message stating they anticipate an updated one soon and currently didn’t have it available. Good luck to everyone looking to protect themselves and others.
I’ve had the same message for ~2 months now. Not sure what is going on with CVS.
I just scheduled my updated covid shot through CVS this morning.
i would just ask your insurance if they allow vaccination at other pharmacies, like walgreens, i know they allow fre flu ones.
Yep… They are definitely trying to kill off the bulk of the population If there was any doubt… It’s pretty clear now
Or are extremely delusional and have a terminal savior complex. You’d be surprised to know how much people believe these kinds of bullshits, even if they start out as lies.
“A good liar will eventually believe their own lies if they were truth from the very beginning.” - some of the people of the early far-right I could talk to personally. I even heard the “Truth is not on our side” line a bit too much.
I do think elephant graveyard’s video on Rogan is correct. This is part of a plot by the technocratic billionaire class to purge the world of humans so they can do away with annoying things like “democracy” and “rights”
You don’t act like they do - just the money hoarding beyond belief, not to mention releasing products they know cause mental harm - if you want everyone to be OK.
at least we can “find comfort” in the fact that republicans are unlikely to want to get vaccinated.
This!
Don’t chastise me as I am genuinely curious – I saw this clip on Huberman lab where the director of the NIH said that the covid vaccine was net more harmful that good for younger men. Is this not the case?
Trump’s health department is stacked with people hostile to the idea of public health. The People’s CDC, an anti-COVID advocacy organization, had this to say about NIH Director Bhattacharya in March prior to his confirmation:
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is a health economist with a medical degree but no further medical training or practice. He endorsed and promoted mass COVID-19 infections to pursue an impossible to achieve infection-driven herd immunity. His policies such as mass infections relying on natural immunity would have led to even more illness, Long COVID, and deaths across the US. His extraordinarily wrong views on the pandemic include predicting, even late in 2020, that US COVID deaths would not reach 50,000, and assuring Floridians in mid-2021 that enough had been vaccinated – though far more have died since then. Videos from as recent as 2024 continue to show him advocating ineffective treatments for COVID-19 such as ivermectin, opposing layered protections against COVID-19, and belittling the value of important tools such as masking and vaccines.
Instead of focusing on advancing the medical sciences, Bhattacharya wants to intertwine politics and policies at NIH and prioritize funding based on academic freedom instead of innovative and impactful medical and health sciences research. If confirmed as the director of NIH, he will continue to downplay the seriousness of COVID-19 and potentially other infectious diseases, and steer NIH towards investment in ineffective treatments for diseases such as focusing on seroprevalence studies. Ultimately, this will harm and reverse the already monumental discoveries at NIH. He will likely assist Secretary Kennedy’s current efforts to delay and even prevent the development of effective therapeutics for infectious diseases, including COVID-19 – and for Long COVID. Finally, there is no reason to think he will fight this administration’s attacks on NIH staffing and cuts in research funding.
Ahh there it is, I wasn’t aware of this, thanks!
Are they anti-covid advocacy, or anti covid-advocacy? I’m pretty sure it’s the former from context but I’m still kind of unsure.
Both, I suppose. They go in on both anti-virus action and opposing pro-infection actors.
In their words, “The People’s CDC is a coalition of public health practitioners, scientists, healthcare workers, educators, advocates and people from all walks of life working to reduce the harmful impacts of COVID-19.”
The vaccine has a risk of causing heart complications. It should be monitored. COVID has a much higher risk of heart complications.
In the age group most at risk of COVID-19 vaccine myocarditis (12–29 years), for every 100 000 vaccinated, compared to about four more cases of myocarditis we have 56 fewer hospitalizations, 13.8 admissions to intensive care and 0.6 fewer deaths. Several studies have shown that post vaccine myocarditis/pericarditis are generally short-lasting phenomena with favourable clinically course.
The paper recognizes a 0.004% increase in mild short term myocarditis, with about a 0.05% decrease in hospitalization, 0.014% decrease in intensive care needs, and a 0.0006% decreased chance of death from COVID.
Of course, all this suggests that in that age range, it’s messing with all very low percentages, so it’s pretty much a wash whether they vaccinate or not, statistically speaking. But the vaccine risk is not ‘much higher’ and the severity of the risk is generally low, and seemingly still technically lower risk than COVID itself, but the risk for any of it is kind of down in the noise.
i wouldnt trust info coming from someone like trumps admin, who is stuffed with his lackeys. especially someone lIKE RFK jr who doesnt believe in vaccines.
Gonna be hard for some people to remember that .gov sites are compromised sources now.
exactly, i only read the actual peer-review research paper with specific scientific research, to verify the claim of an article.i always try to look for said paper from a stem journal before going on NIH/NCBI.
The NIH director was appointed by Trump, which came with a pretty strong anti-mask, anti-vaxx, and general ‘covid was a hoax’ sort of baggage, so he is unfortunately not that credible.
There is a study that correlates to the ages he specifies, but the conclusion is that the risks inflicted by the vaccine were still lower than the risks of COVID itself even for that age group, but no matter how they sliced it the risks either way for the age group was minimal, neither the vaccinne nor COVID were too risky overall. Pre-vaccine chicken pox was deadlier to kids than COVID was to that age group, and we didn’t consider that to be particularly risky, mostly worth vaccinating due to heading off the chances for shingles later.
Gotcha thanks for the info, yeah I don’t follow politics too much so was unaware the director was appointed by trump and came in with that baggage.
Wish Huberman had specified that in the caption
That’s another one I don’t understand. In my country at least when I grew up (born 2001) most kids didn’t get chickenpox vaccines. I didn’t have one and actually caught the virus. I think I even had a scar from it. I know someone about 4 years younger than me who also is scarred from it. Not sure if they started giving it out now. I certainly hope so.
I’m old enough that the vaccine was unavailable, so I got the illness and at least one scar, but my kid was vaccinated and all my peers’ kids are vaccinated so they just won’t know what it’s like.
Seems like some countries think it’s better to keep it around to keep previously sickened people exposed to keep their immune system active to mitigate shingles, but seems like the data in the ‘vaccinate most of the kids’ countries have shown that this doesn’t actually matter, so we might see more countries embrace vaccinating against it.
Tldr: us gov is no longer reliable for basically anything good, and can be now considered as explicitly and actively hostile to us all
I would suggest speaking with a doctor you trust who also knows your medical history, if you are indeed a young man.
Young in spirit not age lol, was just curious
Jay Bhattacharya, said here that I don’t think anyone disputes that it increases the rate of myocarditis, especially in young men..
Likely he is referring to this study that:-
But this statement is about a particular (temporary) adverse reaction. It does not mean the vaccine is net more harmful. The fact you came away with that impression just shows how easy it is to misrepresent facts.
The US Gov. wants its citizens sick and feeble.
Are they trying to make massive epidemic in U.S.? Because that’s how you make an epidemic.
Yes
Wait, that’s still a thing?
I’m a a solid blue state and the general consensus is no one even cares anymore.
So if one already had a dose of the previous booster about a year or so ago, would it be helpful to get the same version of the booster again now?
Is the post simply suggesting to people that haven’t yet had the booster go get it? Or is it saying you’re better off getting the same booster again rather than nothing?
Also, I’m assuming people with the means to go to a different country without these laughing stock “leaders” would be better waiting for those countries to approve and release up-to-date vaccines.
My understanding is that because of the type of protien that it encodes for, the immunity imparted by the vaccine decreases over time (because of complex immune system reasons). Never to 0%, but lower. The annual booster not only prepares you better for oncoming strains (in theory, when the vaccine research, development, and approval systems work as expected), but re-ups your immunity to existing strains.
The theory as I understand it is that because viruses like COVID-19 pass through populations in waves, your body is developing a very strong short-term immunity to neutralize any immediate “rebound” waves (imagine a wave bouncing off the side of a pool, yes, viruses move through populations like that). It then maintains a weaker, long-term response. By fooling your immune system into thinking you have COVID-19 right now, the vaccine bumps your body ino “short-term” response mode, so your best possible immune response is at the ready if the real thing shows up.
I am not an epidimeologist, but I read a lot of their work from 2020-2023. I might have details wrong, but if it’s been >6mo since you’ve had a booster, you would probably benefit from getting another one.
Virus waves are exacerbated by holiday schedules. First school starts and kids are a massive disease vector. Then Thanksgiving comes and people spread it to their families and bring it back home. Then it has a month to spread and then Christmas comes.
also people staying in doors during cold weather increases the infeciton rate.
yea your memory b-cells are the one that maintains at a low levels of antibodies against certain disease, it is one of the reasons measles is dangerous they damage the dendritic cells which presents antigens to b-cells so your bascially partially immunosuppressed, besides the acute infection.
