Due to an oversight, Trump’s attorneys failed to ask for a jury trial within the time allotted to them

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    9 months ago

    The guy with a reputation for not paying his attorneys is having trouble attracting good legal council?

    Shocked. I’m shocked.

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      9 months ago

      His lawyers probably didn’t expect to juggle a dozen trials at the same time. That, and, no one even halfway competent would ever work for Trump. Most of his previous attorneys are codefendants in his criminal trials at this point.

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      9 months ago

      “OK so what’s our strategy here?”

      “Well, I’m going to be so incompetent that when you’re inevitably found guilty you can appeal on the basis that I’m incompetent”

      “Genius. I love it.”

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    9 months ago

    I’m just some idiot on the internet who doesn’t know what I’m talking about, but…

    Is it possible this isn’t a mistake? If you’re going to try to win a trial through corruption and wrongdoings, it seems easier to illicitly win over (and have it stay quiet) one person than half of a jury, no?

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        9 months ago

        That’s their play, they don’t want a jury because they’re trying to pay the groundwork for a mistrial via judicial bias but that is a high jump and they’re stumbling on molehills.

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          9 months ago

          The jury has to be unanimous no matter the decision. If they can’t agree, they either deliberate as long as it takes, or if the jury is hung, then they’ll reduce the charges.

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      9 months ago

      Yes, because they fully believe that 40% of the nation would exonerate him. So they want jury trials to be stacked with loyalists. There is also the possibility that they want to know who will make the decision so they can be coerced.

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        9 months ago

        Slash have his cult threaten their lives. He’s already gotten away with it a couple times without anything happening so why not again?

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          Dude just literally put a mafia style “make him an offer he can’t refuse” hit on a 4 star general in our armed forces. With no consequences.

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        9 months ago

        It depends on where the jury pool comes from. I doubt that 4 people in Manhattan or Brooklyn would want to exonerate him, much less 40%. But if they can pull from Staten Island as well, his chances of finding at least one goober who would be willing to ignore the facts and exonerate him get larger.

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          Long trials tend to have a large jury pool to select from. I was recently in the pool for a 7 week trial in Oakland and there were 150 of us to choose from. The defense just needs to find 4 Republicans to get into the jury and the case is over. You would assume a staunch Republican would try hard to get on the jury to help protect trump.

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            9 months ago

            I think you underestimate how much New Yorkers (Particularly NYC) loathe Trump. Brooklyn and Queens saw something insane like 75% of the vote go to Biden, in Manhattan and then Bronx it was closer to 85%. And we can’t assume the remaining 15% are full MAGA, either, they may have just not liked Biden but were ambivalent to Trump.

            Staten Island is where NYC keeps its Conservatives, it went for Trump 52 to 42.

            Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_York

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      9 months ago

      Given the stack of damning evidence against him, probably. Jury’s adds an unknown quantity. So if you think you can win without on, you should not request one.

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        9 months ago

        NY city, not federal. The judge was not appointed by trump at all (and trump has been incredibly hostile to said judge,)

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    9 months ago

    I posted this story in politics from another source a few days ago and it was removed because apparently the source wasn’t good enough and people couldn’t find it anywhere else. It was the only source reporting it at the time, but ok then.

    edit: guess it was farther back than I remember, here’s that article from ~3 weeks ago

    https://washingtonpress.com/2023/09/12/attorney-error-trump-eschews-jury-in-manhattan-case/

    edit2: yep, 19 days ago

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    9 months ago

    Good. Let’s hope that this is just the first of stupidities he stumbles over. Didn’t he already piss off the judge that presides over this case?

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    9 months ago

    So the repeated (ad nauseum) Trump claim “I only hire the best people” isn’t accurate?