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    In order to use a defibrillator, you have to remove everything from a person’s chest. This includes the bra and to even shave chest hair to be able to apply the pads correctly.

    I’ve always thought that it would be troublesome for a man to have to apply a defibrillator to a woman if someone assumes foul play because of their own issues.

    Life over dignity in that situation, everyone else be damned.

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          While my cousin’s neighbor is fighting a law suit because, a woman (cousin’s neighbor) used defibrillator on another woman(when her heart stopped) , and other woman is now suing the neighbor for some minor marks from defibrillator. Mostly neighbor will win the case, but she has to appear in court now. Makes me feel so angry and i don’t even know the neighbor lady.

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          And you have to remember that there’s a difference between what some random idiot on the street thinks and what someone can actually be prosecuted for.

          Jesus Christ, do the fucking CPR

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            It’s not just about being prosecuted, but publicly judged and shamed for.

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              There are, but remember that defenses come into play after being sued. So you can still go through the mental nightmare (because let’s be real, a rich person isn’t going to be doing CPR, and certainly isn’t going to care about being sued, so only your typical person who could lose everything in this scenario) of being a defendant in a lawsuit until the judge agrees to toss it or you go to court and are found not liable.

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                The public scrutiny and the mark on your record does not go away even if you’re found not liable. Once you are even accused of anything like this, it’s there forever. People will think you got off on a “technicality”.

                If you’re a man facing this, your life is ruined. May as well move away and never come back.

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            Never said I wouldn’t do the CPR. Only pointing out that in an emergency situation that people are fucking stupid and that a random idiot could easily interfere violently with what they think might be sexual assault

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        Which is why all the most clever rapists carry defibs.

        If you EVER see a man carrying a defibrillator, 9 of 10 times, he’s a rapist.

        What’s worse, the extra super clever ones, ride around in ambulances with disguises to make them look like paramedics.

        Whenever I see a rapist mobile with flashing lights, I run them off the road.

        I’ve saved at least a dozen women already this year.

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          To be fair there are rapist mobiles and they do have flashing lights, they just don’t say “Ambulance” on them.

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        I could imagine someone thinking “wow he took her bra off, that was unnecessary”. Since correct defib use isn’t really common knowledge

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      Imagine dying because some old puritan assholes decided at some point that female nips are inherently offensive but male nips are fine. Humanity can be so idiotic sometimes

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      It does not have to be life over dignity. There can be a middle ground they could at least provide a cover while doing their thing. I know a teen girl who changed school, did therapy and tried to sue because she once had a seizure and they stripped her naked in front everyone to save her. Her “friends” took video of her and spread it all over their school. As awful as it sounds I’m not making this up.

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        You don’t have to, but some defibrillator kits include a razor, and when I took a CPR class, we were taught how to remove hair using either a razor or an extra set of defib pads.

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        They’re constantly updating best practices, the kits come with a little razor now. Though we got told to apply the pad on the hair and then pull it off, effectively waxing the area. It’s apparently to get better contact. Personally I think shaving would be more effective, suppose you do what you have to in the situation.