• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    One of the few cases where consent of anything can be assumed is lifesaving of a person unable to respond. One of the first steps of cpr is to seek a response to ensure that the person is unconscious before then confirming no pulse.

    But yeah I get why it’s awkward

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        I’m not CPR certified or anything, but I think if you’re just grabbing titties you’re probably doing it wrong.

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            Can you post any example of a mob attacking someone for performing CPR on a woman?

            Seems like a pretty wild assumtion that you will be attacked for helping someone in a life threathening state by some nebulous “them.”

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          For sure! But I didn’t say you WERE grabbing titties, just that you’re perceived to be.

          I mean just getting the electrodes on for a defibrillator you have to lift their shirt…

          Can you see that being perceived poorly?

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            Unlikely that someone holding a defibrillator next to someone passed out on the ground is going to be perceived poorly.

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              Unfortunately in a panic scenario like that, sometimes people don’t see things as clearly as they might normally.

              And people aren’t great on a normal day either.

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              You would think so, right? But the reality is that men are always assumed to have the worst intentions. Especially in hindsight. i.e. “he didn’t need to do that right? he must be trying to cop a feel”.

              Same reason men aren’t usually kindergarten teachers, because they’re immediately assumed to be pedos.

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                Fortunately they are cheap and easy to use correctly (and nearly impossible to use wrong), as such they are all over. If you are in a public place I’d be surprised if you didn’t have ready access to a defibrillator in the US, though you may not realize where it is.

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            I mean just getting the electrodes on for a defibrillator you have to lift their shirt

            You also need to make sure their bra doesn’t have an underwire and remove it if there is.

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          Even though you’re joking I wouldn’t be surprised if someone did react like that. “Uhhmmmm, that’s no CPR, you’re just fondling her! I know because I went to CPR training.”

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        If you’re touching her tits, you’re not giving proper CPR. Proper CPR happens just below the sternum. That’s well below any kind of bra band. If her tits are that low, she’s either an EE cup or 80 years old.

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          Huh, I looked it up and checked out the instructions and diagrams of several websites. Every one of them said to place your hands on the upper part of the chest and every image showed their hands between the nipples.

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            I heard the saying: if you didn’t break a rib you didn’t do CPR right. So I’m pretty sure it’s not beneath the sternum

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          You need to compress the chest, so pressure needs to go on the sternum. If you’re pressing below it, the only thing you’re compressing is their intestines, which is not gonna help anyone

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          Okay but we’ve already established that it’s not about what you ARE doing, but what people think you’re doing.

          Perception.