Summary

A Tesla Cybertruck crashed in Piedmont last November, killing three college students after hitting a cement wall and bursting into flames.

The California Highway Patrol (CHP) attributed the crash to intoxication and high speed but found that the victims likely died from the fire.

Testimony revealed the vehicle’s doors would not open after the crash, preventing rescue attempts. A survivor was pulled out after a bystander broke a window with a tree branch.

The CHP’s investigation into the crash remains ongoing.

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    This is propaganda, opening a cybertruck door is very easy.

    First you bring up the “doors” menu on the console. Then tap “right door” to get to the right door sub menu. Then tap “open”. If you get error “tsla3456” that means the truck is on fire. Normal cars don’t recognize when they’re on fire, this is a smart thing done by smart people at Tesla. So then you just go back to the “doors” menu, tap “right door” again, then “advanced” and then “overrides”. Enter the error number you want to ignore in the “ignore errors” item. Now you go back to “doors”, “right door” and tap “open” and the door will open easily.

    Tesla even offers a free “door opening” course that’s just 2 hours long to go over all of the options you have for opening your cybertruck doors. It’s really the victims fault if they didn’t bother to learn how to use their vehicle.

    /s I fear this is needed …

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        i’m sorry for my rudeness, but i think that’s a skill issue. Give it a couple more seconds of thought and realizing a shitty door locking mechanism/system faulting and not deliberately convoluted menu programming is pretty clearly the reason for the door failure.

        you know i started that reply and then i found that NHTSA’s staff has already been cut by 4% cause DOGE(pronounced “dough - ghee”) and now im like yeah actually this might be the kind of thing that gets thru regulators now…

        PS mods, if the skill issue comment is a rule breaker i can remove it, pwease dont ban me again for ‘attacking the person and not the argument’.

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      If you follow these instructions you would be dead within minutes! Tsla3456 is for water Tsla3356 is for fire You would know this if you did the advanced fire safety course for $450. It was the only thing I heard about a the basic door course.

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        Also be true in your typing as there’s no backspace option on the keyboard.

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        Water in a Tesla results with fire, though, which is why the Tsla3456 is nothing but an alias for Tsla3356.

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    But when he attempted to pull Tsukahara from that same window, Riordan testified, “I grabbed her arm to try and pull her towards me, but she retreated because of the fire.”

    Remember that the right wing media rushed to blame this on speeding and intoxication without mentioning that they were still alive and able to move when the vehicle was on fire. They were cooked alive inside, foreseeably and preventably, and that was covered up in a way that maximized the shame the victims’ families felt. Deplorable.

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      The Cybertruck fans have basically just decided that because one of them was a drunk driver they don’t need to think about the rest of it and it’s fine that they died.

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    Well, say what you want, but tesla is the only one doing something to reduce the republican voters base.

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    But the boycott is still “illegal”, you guys.

    Remember when Failin’ Palin was bleating about “death panels”?

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        The glass is not bullet resistant. The doors barely qualify, if they don’t have to stand up to an actual firefight.

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          Resistant

          There is no guarantee to stop even a small caliber

          Small caliber at high velocity would go straight through

          You could say a thick metal wall is small caliber bullet proof because no matter what velocity, the small chunk of metal is never passing through a few decimeters of solid metal.

          Small caliber piercing round at high velocity, straight through the stainless steel door.

          Slap some plastic on that bad boy

          You’d really trust that as a bullet shield?

          Normal 9mm across the street. Probably going through

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              Yep small caliber proof for sure

              My favorite part of decimeters is 1 inch is 1/4 decimeters. 3 decimeters is foot.

              So if it’s like 8 inches. I can just say 2 decimeters

              From there you can say 20 centimeters or .2 meters

              If something is 12ft it’s 36 decimeters or 3.6 meters

              There’s no easy way to turn 8 inches into centimeters other than knowing that 1 inch is about 2.5 centimeters or just estimating in centimeters to begin with.

              You could say 8 inches is 2/3 of a foot. 3ft to a meter. So 1 ft is .30 meters. Then it’s 2/3 of a foot, so .30×2/3=.2.

              Decimeters are the missing link for Americans to convert

              Yards to meters is 1

              Feet to meters is 3

              Inches to decimeters is 4

              Things like a 36 inch doorway, 3 feet, would be 9 decimeters or .9 meters

              Common measurements of inches:

              12 - 4 Decimeters

              18 - 4.5 Decimeters

              24 - 8 Decimeters

              30 - 9.5 Decimeters

              What they would use otherwise would be

              .4 meters

              .45 meters

              .8 meters

              .95 meters

              Saying the standard doorway is 9 Decimeters is way better than saying .9 meters.

              If you rounded to 1 meter. You’re adding 3 1/3 inches. Which is a 10% increase.

              A decimeter tape measure would be nice.

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            There are plenty of videos out there showing it stopping repeated 9mm bullets. But you’re right, the velocity will also come into play.

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              Yeah, I watched one from official Tesla youtube where the guy shot it with a bunch of stuff.

              It did stop the 9mm with the rounds they chose

              The buck shot pierced the door and cracked the window because it was rolled down.

              Buck shot is smaller caliber with higher velocity.

              I need to find a video of someone trying to get a 9mm bullet to go through it rather than basically a paid advertisement.

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                This one is recent and it does various calibers / velocities

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufoLITv26R4

                it did stop a subsonic and supersonic 9mm. The supersonic one was pretty close to going through though, I wouldn’t have been surprised if he did a dozen or so if one would have.

                The shots that ripped the metal instead of piercing through it were pretty wild.

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    But there’s emergency latches!

    They’re just hidden somewhere in the doors and you need the owner’s manual to figure out where they are…

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    Reminder that a seatbelt cutter and glass breaker is a good investment, especially in cars like this.

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      1. Elon musk is very rich.
      2. Elon musk is doing favours for the cult leader who is also president
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      Well, the government organization that allowed consumers to complain, get the money back along with a settlement, and have the product recalled, was recently “fed into a wood chipper” by the guy who makes the cybertrucks.

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      Are they saying the doors were not damaged and still didn’t open? I could see the doors being damaged and resulting in them not opening. I’m sure that’s common.

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        The doors use a push button mechanism to open. There’s no handle, no place to grip, nothing. You tap a button, that opens the door. Meaning if the internal electronics have been messed up, congratulations, that door isn’t opening.

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          You can open the door by basically disassembling it and pulling on a cord, but nobody knows how to do that

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            Someone outside of the vehicle cannot access this cord. Unconscious or disoriented passengers are fucked.

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              Someone outside of the vehicle should be either calling an ambulance or grabbing the jaws of life and telling the door it doesn’t have a choice in the matter.

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                The jaws of life cannot be used if the vehicle is actively on fire.

                Passengers dying because of the vehicle’s aesthetic features is another square on the Tesla bingo card and another example of the insanity that this country has fallen into.

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        If the Cybertruck gets water into the door (y’know, like from rain) it’s pretty common for the doors to also just open themselves whenever the fuck.

        It’s amazing what’s common with these trucks, I recommend everyone read the Cybertruck Owners Forum.

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    Why are these cars even allowed to be purchased? Does America not have road safety standards? Can anyone just make a car and as long as it has headlights and seatbelts sell it to people?

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      It got 5 NHTSA stars for driver safety, 4 for passenger, anyone caught outside of it are acceptable casualties. And as far as I know the manufacturer can self-certify.

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      While you are burning alive, please take the time to appreciate the fact that the Cybertruck has a 5-star NHTSA crash rating.

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      Regulatory capture. For the most part, Automakers can determine if their vehicle is safe, as long as they have certain hardware requirements (Like airbags, backup cameras, and a roof that can support the weight of the vehicle.) Heck, I remember some Tesla engineer saying that the mirrors are only on the truck because they couldn’t get the legislation mandating them removed in time to replace them with cameras.

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      Were still kinda being held together by pre-1970s protections, but those are slowly going away, too

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        When it comes to people inside the car, they’re incredibly good. There are lots of cars you can buy in Europe and Japan that wouldn’t even try meeting US safety standards.

        That is, until some jackass decided on putting too many gizmos in a car without thinking about how you open the door while the battery is on fire. And is currently dismantling the parts of government that tell you not to do that.

        Those standards also don’t do much for people outside the car. Beyond Tesla, that’s been the real tragedy of US safety standards over the past few years.

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          Even inside the car isn’t great, just look at allowing electronic door latches, and giant touchscreens that distract you while driving.

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      Our safety agency actually rejected the headlights that turn off around other cars, in favor of LED lights that blind the fuck out of everyone no matter what setting you use.

      That tells you everything you need to know about American “safety”.

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      Well we have some standards …like they forced Musk to put mirrors on the Cybertruck, because Elon wanted to make it without mirrors and just use cameras.

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    Not suggesting anything of course, but Trump just bought himself a Tesla and if he really really wanted to help Musk improve Tesla’s image…

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    I bet, if they were to analyze the car’s logs, they’ll also find that nasty behavior in the software, where it disables all the autodrive stuff before impact, including ceasing to brake, so it can’t be “blamed” for causing a wreck. (Whether or not they were using it at the time.)