Cant imagine making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes. This is saying it will increase that much.
Why don’t we just charge the homeless infinite tax money to support the government?
Bug report filed.
Closing, will not fix
PEBKAC. Known issue.
Dev note: seems like a skill issue.
I am unironically working on an idea where negative money is a normal feature of an Economy which is needs first. Production based on the requirement to fill those needs. There would be no tax money required to support a government and the negative balance is simply a transparent measurement of the cost of life.
It would eliminate the concept of purchasing power. And i know that sounds insane on premises. Hence i am still working on it. May require more then a few pages.
Anyway don’t direct skepticism to it yet. Just know that your joke has been a real life math Problem in my head for a few days now.
Some may critique you, but I think it’s important to dream. All the best ideas started as dreams.
It’s the same in Germany, people listed the actual tax cuts that’ll happen per income bracket for each of the major parties, and surprisingly the nazi party that keeps drumming up the “We’re the common man’s party!!!” is the one that wants to make the rich richer.
And if you want to make the rich more richer than the fucking FDP, a factually one-man party by a guy that can only comment “But what about Porsche drivers?!” to any problem you put in front of him, wow are you a rich assholes party.
Remember, fellow Germans: Today we vote. And if on the way out you vote with your fist in the face of a nazi or nazi-sympathizing voter, that’s a bonus!
Unfortunately, disinformation seems to be the winning strategy.
From an American: sorry for Facebook, Twitter, all that… Both our parties are kinda bought by big tech, and it’s affecting y’all too.
Also, spite. A German acquaintance tells me that their family is going to vote for the AfD to punish their current government. In my opinion, Harris lost because of similar actions—citizens trying to teach a lesson or punish their party for not being what they want it to be (which is a reasonable wish, but I’m not sure about the action). Argentina also had some resentful voters that led to the clown in power today.
Why not vote for some smaller party though? From what I understand, AfD would keep a lot of the bad (highly regressive tax policies, foreign policy).
In my opinion, Harris lost because of similar actions—citizens trying to teach a lesson or punish their party for not being what they want it to be (which is a reasonable wish, but I’m not sure about the action)
The democrats were doomed to failure from the beginning. They consistently ignored their voters and were almost enthusiastically pushing people to the other side. To this day, most of the democratic leadership doesn’t seem to have learned any lessons.
But what’s infuriating is that the republicans pushed Trump. The traitor who attempted a violent coup against the American government, and who very clearly had plans to become a dictator and destroy democracy in this country is who they backed for president. If they backed some sane right or center-right candidate, they would have wiped the floor in that election with much more votes, much less drama, and possibly even restored a sense of national unity.
But nope. The republicans joined the American traitor, and now the entire world is going to suffer for it. If WW3 happens, I hope the equivalent of the Nuremberg trials remembers who got us to this point: it wasn’t the incompetent Democrats, it was the fascist Republicans.
It’s like Robin Hood, but in reverse…
Hobin Rood or Nibor Dooh?
Hood Robbin’ was right there
Damn son, you cut that mustard with precision and speed.
Sey Yes
Dennis Moore?
Your lupins or your life!
These people have to live somewhere. Why is nobody killing them?
Americans are brainwashed with an ideology of nonviolence
The population has been made isolated at the community level. There are very few local groups doing any reaction at all to this.
And violent reactions which are successful are a group action; it’s very seldom an individual, in any era of history, changed the politics by themselves.
And as long as there are no impromptu gatherings of significant frequency, there will be very little violence.
The internet is not a replacement for community driven change which powers all social and political movements, peaceful or not.
The turning point, if there is one, will be lots of local meetings by the thousands , and not until then. No matter how violent or passive the individuals be
Americans won’t form violent groups because they’re trapped in the mind prison of nonviolence. They think violence is wrong.
There is still a lot of violent potential in all this population, it just needs to be nurtured by a working grassroots movement. And that is broken. Just like you can drive a car with a working motor, that has a busted axle; you cannot lead violent people to do things if there is no place to hook up or meet in person.
This applies to the people who oppose you as much as you, and I mean anyone. So, the current situation is sort of a stabilizing force at the moment
What are you smoking?
The only country in the whole world with thousands of school shootings annually thinks violence is wrong? The country where the police force is trained to view themselves as an occupying force and civilians are enemy combatants is averse to violence? The country who’s leader is currently cheerleading multiple genocides is peaceful?!?!1?
Can you even define “violence?” Because this country personifies it.
The country’s political classes are violent. The people are trained to be nonviolent. This gives the state a monopoly on violence, which cements their control. Americans will be free when they stop worshipping at the shrine of nonviolence.
You’re right. Right after we stop driving our cars though protestors and shooting people through closed and locked doors we can “stop worshipping at the shrine of nonviolence.”
“America’s is nonviolent” is probably gonna go down as the singular stupidest thing i read all year. 'grats.
it’s more nuanced than that.
certain kinds of violence are glorified, because that which is forbidden is coveted.
Certain kinds of violence are acceptable, because it targets groups that are considered lesser.
Ask anyone if “is violence sometimes ok?” and you’ll always get a loud and resounding “no”, and it’s so obviously a lie. You can even get them tripped up in the lie if you ask “what if someone is breaking into your home?” or other questions in which someone else is committing violence first. They’ll begrudgingly admit that sometimes violence is ok, but that’s different! If the person is open minded enough, you might even get to more nuanced scenarios than that, but good luck.
We have the largest military spending in the world, and we call it “defense”.
Superman and Batman are two of the most iconic characters in fiction, and they Do Not Kill. It’s a big deal if they break that rule, or that piece of media is kinda trash, that happens too. I like to call them “defenders of the status quo”, because the companies that own them (not just them but also other characters that serve the same purpose) won’t ever let them make things better. If they ever try, that’s portrayed as a bad thing. We’re told through these media that the real world as it is, is as good as it gets. The real world sucks ass, the bad guys won, and they’re not even cool bad guys.
I think I lost the plot somewhere in there. Time for another drink!
It’s because it IS wrong. Animals resort to violence when they don’t get their way.
The allied soldiers who killed the nazi soldiers are… doing something wrong?
🤔
Nice whatabout. Not entertaining it.
That’s not what a whatabout is.
BULLSHIT
Profound! As was the last time you said the exact same thing.
This is so funny because it is 100% the opposite. Violence is everywhere in america and people are completely desensitized to it and is completely fine if it is directed at the poor. Violence on the streets, violence against homeless, shooting your neighbors for pulling up in your driveway to turn, shooting people for not driving how you want, shooting up schools, mass shootings, all completely fine and absolutely no steps are taken against it.
They are brainwashed into nonviolence against the rich and corporate power and encouraged to use tons of violence against the poor and people that look slightly different than them.
Perfectly exemplified by fox (most popular “news” station in america, legally can’t call themselves news since they lied too much):
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Luigi in an inhumane terrorist traitor who should be killed
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the guy who killed homeless people in the same week: “some say that he is a hero” and praising him for the full news cycle
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Maybe it’s because we’re not animals. Had half of this country been educated enough to see what was coming- we wouldn’t be in this mess. Violence will only make it worse.
strange though that rich educated billionaires are fine using violence through the state to oppress citizens
Did I say that was fine?
In a game theory situation, One actor that obeys laws vs. another that doesn’t tends to eliminate the one that does obeys laws.
so even hypothetically, we can’t take the high road as it leads to a cliff.
and don’t be so naive to think the world peace and order we enjoy wasn’t paid for with blood of our ancestors. The rules you hold dearly now didn’t protect your ancestors when they sought to do what’s right.
Violence is the hallmark of peace.
Have fun storming the castle when people can’t even organize protests of any significance.
Who’s not an animal? Because humans are definitely classified as animals. We’re definitely not plants.
Animals as in- barbaric knuckle-dragging cavemen than can’t handle negativity and adversity without harming others.
You’re virtue signaling and need to do some deep searching and a review of human history. Be better.
Yeah… being nonviolent absolutely is a virtue. A pretty simple one at that. So I’m hoping the signal is loud and clear. And human history? Really? We used to use the practice of trepanning to release evil spirits from one’s head. Doctors once prescribed cigarettes to patients. History is a bad example to use to justify the present.
And lastly, you have the nerve to tell me to be better while you try and justify acts of violence?
Be better indeed- and evolve while you’re at it.
What acts of violence have they committed?
Yeah, I forgot how this country became liberated in the first place.
Yeah… it’s not 1775 anymore. Did you not know this?
Oh, so that’s why I can vote. I was so confused. Doesn’t change the fact that fascists need pitchforks.
BULLSHIT
Such an astute point! Care to elaborate?
Sure! NOTHING has been achieved in repelling tyranny or gaining human rights without violence. All of the rights that the Fascist Pedophiles are taking away now were all won through acts of violence or very serious threats thereof. There is NO SITUATION in which tyranny abdicated itself because you begged it to. Not only is violence a legitimate answer to a problem, in political situations it is often the only reasonable response available.
Also, we are, in fact, animals in a very real and literal sense: “a living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli.” And animals often fight to survive.
BULLSHIT.
Such an astute point! Care to elaborate?
Gated communities.
Also, killing doesn’t solve the problem. You have to force transfer of weath/power and that can’t happen if someone is dead.
How can we know it won’t solve the problem until it’s been thoroughly tested?
we’ve tried nothing and we’re out of ideas
What world are you living in? Only slightly more 1\4 of the US voting population tried to stop fascists from taking over even after the fascists said, “Hey, we’re fascists, and we plan on getting super fascisty up in dis bitch!”. Slightly less than 1\4 of the voting population actively worked to put the fascist in power and the remaining half gave the fascists 2 thumbs up and cheered them on. You are talking like this is some coup, but the US fucking invited them in and handed them the keys to the place. Even with all their tricks and lies and downright illegal activities, it wouldn’t have meant shit if just a small percentage of the rest of the voting population had bothered to vote. So, even if we pretend that we are all Rambo and go on some single-handed “cleansing” of Washington, and we just murder the shit out of them without them lifting a finger to stop us. WTF is that going to do for us? They’ll just be replaced by more monsters because that’s what we chose.
Backslash fractions!?
For some reason, the Google keyboard has \ on the main keys, but I have to dig for / and I just can’t find the ability to give a shit some days.
Looks like income tax is reduced across the board. And the increases come from removal of IRA rebates and adding of tarriffs.
From your link:
Yeah, this is what every economist in the country has been saying for the last 3 months. These idiotic tariffs are going to screw every middle to lower class American.
The complete opposite of what we need is a pretty good summary of Donald Trump
But that’s not what the American people want. They don’t want to end suffering. They just want to hurt the right people.
IMAGINE GIVING A FUCK ABOUT $36K WHEN YOU MAKE NEARLY $1 MILLION / YR!!!
Imagine not pursuing all your hobbies and instead opressing minorities and waging war all around the world when you make 100 billion a year. First person to say that is elons interest, and that’s valid, can stand in line behind him at the guillotine.
If I had that kind of money, you’d never hear about me again. I’d just stay quiet and fund a whole lot of charities and scholarships.
You would never get that rich in the first place because you aren’t a sociopath.
I mean… you could win a lottery…
low odds but still… 😉
Afraid there’s no 100 billion annually cash for life lottery . . . Even if there was a 100 million per year prize, youd need to live for 1000 more years to accumulate 100bn. So, sociopathy (together with nepotism and luck) seems like the only viable path…
Imagine getting a tax break that’s greater than half the countries incomes.
Holy shit that’s a great point!
This is such a slap in the face. The tax breaks for the rich will be barely noticeable for them. The increase for everyone else could result in noticeable hardship.
Barely? It won’t be noticeable.
what if we all just don’t pay taxes
I mean, they’re planning to gut the IRS so who would be able to come after us 🤷♀️
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Way ahead of you.
This will be in effect next tax season I think. This tax season’s policy is already in place
200% sales tax
If you shoplift, pigs shoot you on sight and get a paid vacation.
Don’t worry. It’ll trickle down… eventually… The cash might be a bit red though… /j
I feel like these chuds don’t know the difference between trickle and dangle.
This is dangle down economics, where the less well off are dependent on voluntary charity from the better off.
Print, laminate and start ticking this up around your local town centre.
Spread incorrect info? Sounds good
What’s incorrect about it?
Nobody making less than 200k will see an increase in their federal taxes. In fact if the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act didnt get extended, you’d be far more likely to see an increase.
Do you have a source?
Is there something in there specifically i should be looking for?
Its all there, black and white. You wont find anything that matches this fabricated infographic.
Thank you, user C126, for so proudly and loudly declaring yourself as someone to be summarily ignored.
This needs to be called Trumps Tax Rises, and repeated over and over again until it sinks in with the morons who voted for him.
For 30k, one expected to pay 7500/yr taxes, although usually that was diverted by the employer and not noticed as much (other than the standard “why is my pay 465/wk instead of 576/wk?” question).
This would knock the takehome down by ~$30/wk due to the increased withholding by the employer to cover that 1500.
And when we look at it from our comfy warm homes, it doesn’t seem like a lot. But, I can confirm from when I was working 3 jobs to support a university habit, that $30 was fucking crushing. I think that’s 2 days a week of food, when every penny is bled out of you already.
Wanna bet the GqP is looking at it like $30 is nothing, like they’re just skipping the appetizer at the clubhouse one day a week?
Don’t be silly. 30 is not even on the gop radar. No way they’re skipping an appetizer over it
America, the home of enshittifiction!
Yes, I can image.even more regressive Republican tax cuts. It isn’t like this is unusual for them or something unique to Trump. It is just more of the same shifting of the tax and cost burden down the economic ladder.
Trump v1 did increase the standard deduction for everyone. It’s the only good thing he’s ever done that I can list off the top of my head.
There is zero chance that he came up with the idea or had anything to do with that increase that happened while he was in office.
