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      dang same I’m way more engaged here and I spend less time it’s a huge win win and it just feels healthier

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        I love reading and writing, replying and interacting. The quality of discourse around here has been excellent so far, the right kind of people have migrated here.
        Fully granted that there are many topics in which I’d love to see more activity, but the space is young. Neither Rome nor Reddit were built in a day.

        Also, a way to keep track of conversations, an unobtrusive notification and a direct link to the spot in any given thread.

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      This platform is infinitely more healthy and feels much more like old reddit to me. New reddit is like anonymous Facebook and I have no use for that.

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      Right? I think I’ve downvoted a grand total of a half-dozen comments here in the last month. On Reddit, I’d be handing those things out like candy.

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        I actually deleted my main account on Reddit a few months back because the toxicity in any comment I posted started to weigh me down (even in the r/Australia sub, it became clear that a lot of people there likely weren’t Australian).

        I’ve noticed things have degraded even more there in the past week, and in the Aussie subs, most of them have gone fully toxic.

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          The worse part is when you can’t even call someone a cunt outside of r/Australia. They act like I’ve stolen their first born or something 😮

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            Idk, I acknowledge it must be a pain in the ass to know whether you can call someone the equivalent of “dude” or not, but I feel like that one’s fair. When you recognize something utterly mundane is a high insult in someone else’s culture, you kinda stop using it towards them unless you intend the insult.

            I sure as shit wouldn’t just drop the honorifics with a middle eastern/asian stranger or walk around their house in street shoes just because doing so is unremarkable where I’m from.

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    Frankly I don’t see how anyone could trust Reddit as the steward of decentralized communities like they claimed to be.

    They’re in it for the money, that’s it.

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      I think it’s just changed over time. Reddit was really different ten years ago. Posts by the admins about changes or their actions regarding drama were more common for example.

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        Ever since Reddit threw Ellen Pao under the bus to make all those controversial changes in 2014, Reddit has never returned to that same level of quality. I remember when they changed the algorithm around that time to some trash version of what it used to be. I used to see world events before anyone else heard about them. After that change it took days for anything relevant to show up in my front page.

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      Agreed. Reddit mods need to see a sinking ship for what it is and work to migrate their communities to software that actually appreciates what they do. Reddit wants to capitalize on labor of love the mods perform.

      Screw Reddit, I’ve already posted more on kbin/the fediverse than I have since the algorithm changes years ago

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    Honestly, at this point I don’t see any coming back from this. It’s been a damned good effort, but Reddit isn’t going to back down at this point. The mods are going to have to put up with it or leave. I’d hope they’d leave, but honestly I don’t think there’s going to be a mass exodus of moderators.

    But maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised

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      Yeah to say that these requests will fall on deaf ears would be an understatement. If Reddit has shown us anything throughout this debacle it’s that they will always do the wrong thing.

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    That ship has sailed, both ways I’m afraid.

    Not only reddit made it exceedingly clear that they aren’t backtracking, 3rd party developers equally clearly stated they are out.

    I don’t see this situation reversing.

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      Well, the Apollo dev sounded, from the second-hand stuff I’ve read, to be out. I’m not sure that all of them necessarily are out.

      I don’t have really high hopes for a reversal, though, agree with you there.

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        I know rif is shutting down after June 30, and Sync will be redirecting people to Sync for Lemmy. A few others are going subscription-only, though none I used, so I’m not sure offhand which/how many.

        Either way, it’s a lot of changes all around.

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      I know, it was deliciously scathing. This kind of integrity is how you get new readers, I think. Wonder what things would have been like had spez attended that day of kindergarten

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    Nope… Spaz isn’t going to get my money.

    He blatantly treated us all like crap:

    1. He acted like he was doing us all a favor, and acting like he was a charity. Reddit doesn’t even need much bandwidth or resources as it’s a text site essentially. They’re still making a lot of profit.
    2. He doesn’t acknowledge that Reddit’s value is in the community. Reddit themselves are their content. They basically just admin the servers and throw ads up. Spaz isn’t exactly contributing thousands of articles, but lots of people are
    3. They don’t pay mods. But finally, when the mods get fed up with Reddit, he took credit for their hardwork by hijacking those communities when they objected
    4. He went full Elon… And…
    5. He went full Trump when he accused the Apollo developer of blackmailing him. If he wasn’t lying, he would have posted more of the conversation. The apollo developer should actually sue him for trying to damage his reputation
    6. Finally, the beauty of the fediverse is that we can choose our community. Whereas, Reddit decides if they want to allow toxic communities and people. The toxicity from FatPeopleHate, TheDonald and femaleDatingStategy ended up spilling over into all of the other communities over time, as they allowed those communities to flourish (and eventually I believe into real life)

    I actually deleted my main 7+ year old account (no idea exactly how old) a few months ago on Reddit, because it had grown too toxic there. Really happy with Beehaw, and really excited to see where Lemmy / KBin ends up in a few years time. Already donated to Beehaw

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      The toxicity from FatPeopleHate, TheDonald and femaleDatingStategy ended up spilling over into all of the other communities over time, as they allowed those communities to flourish

      Ironically, 3rd party apps like Sync allowed you to block entire subreddits from appearing on your r/all feed. I used that feature a lot to block out junk subreddits that I have zero interest in.

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        Yeah… I was a relay user (removed it yesterday finally).

        But, what I mean is that these people who acted that way on those subs, basically got the OK from Reddit to act the same way on every other sub. Reddit never took the hard approach against them. They just pretended to.

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    Glad to see it, sad to say I still won’t go back to enjoy it if it ever happens.

    That bridge was Napalm’d, bombed and bulldozed.

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    The fact that I’m commenting on a post is something I would never of done on reddit means kbin is my new home. I’ve nuked my 15yr old account and there’s no reason to go back.

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    So what happens if Reddit doesn’t comply to their requests?

    Last time mods did a protest by making subreddits private, Reddit threatened to kick them out of moderation at that made most mods just shut up and comply.

    Now mods have absolutely no leverage against the admins. I don’t sympathize with Reddit, but I lost all sympathy for mods too. They should simply do what we all did, and hop off Reddit for once. Sadly, they care more about their “mod powers” than anything else.

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      I think some just take a bit longer to leave the communities b they build behind and still try to fix reddit. there will probably be a longer exodus of mods when they realise after July 1st that their communities aren’t the same they used to.

      of course there will always be bootlickers as well.

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      It’s not just “mod powers”. They were apart and help build a community. Some had real connections. Just because a family is moving to newer, bigger, better house, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t miss the old one.

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    One thing about open letters is they almost never accomplish anything. It seems Reddit is digging hooves into the turf on this thing. If they were going to budge, I think they’d be doing it about now. There’s only a few days left before the lights go out.

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      I agree and even if they revert the changes some people just won’t go back. They did so much more damage to their reputation since the original issue of API changes.

      Reddit won’t die as some ignorant people hoped for, but enough people migrated to create something new.

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        So far I’ve been getting my fill of content so I’m fine here. Not missing the old haunt much.

        I don’t really care what happens to Reddit one way or the other, but it’s rather amusing drama, good guys us, bud guys them. I’m interested to see what happens after the deadline.

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          I’m thrilled the blackout jump started interest in the Fediverse. I hope enough people stick around, I don’t want to go back to reddit, I like it here.

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          I gotta be honest, Kbin/Lemmy has done a much better job of satisfying those cravings than Mastodon.

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        It doesn’t have to die all of a sudden; once it becomes obvious that it’s peaked, nobody will be willing to underwrite them losing money anymore and they’ll go through progressive rounds of layoffs and shittier monetization strategies until there’s nobody left.

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          That I can see. Will be interesting to see how much of a hit to their IPO this was.

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    Too late for me. It’s just one other social media company subject to the whims of an irrational rich tech bro. Not interested in that whole scene anymore. Reddit is forever tarnished.