• polar@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    What current situation?

    1. Is so hard to believe Open Source should be open? If there were a malicious intent, others would have been able to detect it in no time… because it is ‘open’! If the open system works, it should not matter there are CIA or FSB, commies or libertarians “infiltrated” making the code.

    2. If those Russians had been in that position is because their contributions have been stellar, otherwise they would never have gotten there. Their contribution and effort has been robbed from them just because they mothers give them birth in the wrong coordinates.

    3. Linus is a god for many of us… with human traits though… His Finland, although historically robbed by Russia, achieved its highest splendor during the decades of neutrality, not by fiercely antagonizing one or the other power… same as Switzerland, Ireland, Austria and Singapore.

    4. All this started with a US law so he has to comply with. However, instead of those unhelpful comments, he should say that in open software it is unwarranted… not to mention countries can get sanctions for their actions, but not civilians that cannot choose where they are born.

    5. If we are to believe that Moscow is trying to put something into the kernel “undetected”… gosh, what an organization based on the US with a so pro-establishment leader may be doing so? For real, now I am starting having my doubts on the kernel!

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      2 hours ago

      you lost me at this

      If there were a malicious intent, others would have been able to detect it in no time… because it is ‘open’!

      not sure if troll or just really ignorant.

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        1 hour ago

        Executive Order 14071 is more than 2 yrs old… Linus waited till the grace deadline (in 1 week) to apply it, obviously he found it non necessary all this time and he trusted those Russians until the grace period expires. No, not so ignorant, nor a troll. And yes, Open systems is easy to detect maliciousness, better yet, you can pin point who contributed what for everyone to see.

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          56 minutes ago

          blah blah blah. you’re obviously trolling or have no idea how FOSS is developed.

          if FOSS is so secure then why is it a popular attack vector for Russian and Chinese espionage?

          just because something is public doesn’t make it inherently more secure, I’m honestly disappointed in your dangerous and clearly flawed take on FOSS.

          FOSS is great, but it’s really no more and no less secure than closed sourced software.

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            35 minutes ago

            So why Linus waited 2 years and a half to apply the Order until the grace period expires? He obviously does not like Russia, but he did trust those individuals (or system)!

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      5 hours ago

      Linus is a god for many of us… with human traits though… His Finland, although historically robbed by Russia, achieved its highest splendor during the decades of neutrality, not by fiercely antagonizing one or the other power… same as Switzerland, Ireland, Austria and Singapore.

      Ukraine was neutral before 2014, that didn’t help avoid an invasion. Not to mention they occupied Moldova and Georgia before that too.

      They have not been able to attack the Baltic nations or Poland because they joined NATO.

      Neutrality word salad is only for the ignorant or those who support russian imperialism.

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        5 hours ago

        Ukraine was awkwardly neutral (it was more a pro-anti rotation govs) before 2014 true… why US senators and Nuland ended there fanning a coup and ended handpicking the leaders? The invasion happened in 2022, 4 month after Russia send a letter to NATO to keep off Ukraine. Russia, as imperialistic aims it may have, have no intentions, not capabilities of invading Poland, Lithuania or Finland. Finland was no NATO and not even the USSR touch it. Mexico’s since Obrador is highly critical of the US, but wisely, choose to calm things down rather than going the Cuban and Venezuela route… see what works best. Is it fair? No, but one has to be pragmatic.

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          51 minutes ago

          Russia, as imperialistic aims it may have, have no intentions, not capabilities of invading Poland, Lithuania or Finland.

          Hey, I’ve heard that before in 2014. You know the three day invasion?

          And because I really think you are a troll: the best part is, NATO has yet to set foot on the ground, while Russia is running to rogue countries like NK.

          Besides, Ukraine being “awkwardly neutral” did not stop Putler from invading, did it?

          You use a lot of words, but a foundation of your “facts” are blatantly missing.

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            Putin invaded after the US fomented coup. before that, Ukraine just kept alternating pro-western pro-russian governments, the coup was done to prevent that alternation (even though the pro-western was going to win in 11 months, but that was not enough for US). Russia, could just not see being kick out of Crimea by the US with a coup. Imagine Cuba gets the capability of kicking US out of Guantanamo… US would just declare the Guantanamo “lease” as US land in a second. Lets not mention the vital or historical importance Crimea has for Russia that Guantanamo does not for the US.

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                7 minutes ago

                I am ranting! Linux should be open for all, we should not have fallen this is Pro-Western, or Pro-China, or this or that, it should remain OPEN! We’d just caused Linux to be viewed as the payment messaging SWIFT and a sided institution so others will look for an alternative. Yes, today, after 2 decades, I am a bit Linux fan. I understand Linus had to apply the Presidential Order, he could just point his disagreement and even proposing the foundation to move to Switzerland or Mexico, but he did not; he did not offer his support for the people he dismissed after years and years of working for him.

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          3 hours ago

          Finland was no NATO and not even the USSR touch it Yes because they had one of the largest regional armies. And why do you think that is? Maybe because they already had Russia invade twice within living memory

          Worth noting that they stayed out of Nato until it was obvious their lunatic neighbour with “imperialistic aims” wouldn’t stop invading others…

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      5 hours ago

      My very fist post on lemmy and already see the upvote downvote game… When someone votes should be demanded a public reason, no?