• TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    “I’m not going to vote because democrats aren’t communist which makes them basically republicans” - average Lemmy.ml user

    Jk it’s actually something more like “I’m not going to vote because I’m European”

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      12 hours ago

      Eastern European specifically.

      Even more specific?

      As east as you can get in Europe :)

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      10 hours ago

      Do you not think genocide is a good reason to not vote for someone else? As far as red lines go, that’s a pretty good one.

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        it is more like genocide vs genocide + whole bunch of other human rights violations.

        if you are not planning to overthrow the government by revolution then there is no way to go from these two options to an “ideologically perfect” (whatever that means) government in just one election cycle, needs to be done in smaller steps.

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          9 hours ago

          Withholding your vote until genocide is taken off the table pressures her to give in to their demands, though. There’s no universal constant saying we need to have a genocide. Either she loves genocide, or she’s supporting it because she’s worried she won’t get the votes without it. If it’s the second one, and I hope it is, then the Uncommitted movement is simply doing the same thing to establish their own power, and for a better reason: to save the lives of their friends, family, aid workers, doctors, and journalists.

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            Nah, holding your vote appears to be you just being another unmotivated democratic voter without regard to why. No one gets polled on why they didn’t vote 4 years prior. At best Harris barely wins and at worst Trump takes office and you get 4 years of genocide + Ukrainian subjugation + subjugation of women, minorities, and immigrants at home.

            Kind of a no-brainer that you should vote for Harris here.

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              No, if it was a no-brainer, the no-brained idiot you’re responding to would already understand this.

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              Not if it’s withheld as part of a wider movement or given to a third party. That’s why it’s being paired with protests and other campaigns letting them know what they have to do to get their vote back.

              Harris barely winning but losing something like Michigan to spook her into actually doing something material to stop supporting Israel is probably my preferred scenario right now, but she already said no arms embargo is on the table and after an election she’s not really beholden to voters anymore, so doubt that will help, either.

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        So you’re gonna do nothing about it. Cool.

        Both sides support Israel, one side has advocated and has vocal members who advocate against the genocide. The other side is for the genocide and thinks they should go further.

        But you’re right, both sides, etc etc, Sit out.

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          Who says I’m doing nothing about it? All you know about it is that I refuse to vote in favor of genocidal regimes. Besides, refusing to vote for someone who’s actively committing a genocide is doing something. It’s exercising your right to vote in a meaningful way by showing that there are lines you do not cross. I wouldn’t vote for Hitler when that was an option, and I won’t vote for Harris (or Trump) now.

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            Make sure to pat yourself on the back for doing something when the christofascists take over, applaud Israels “tough” stance on “terrorism”, and kill or chase out every Palestinian that doesn’t lick IDF boots and ask for seconds.