Ben Lovejoy / 9to5Mac: Apple’s Activation Lock for iPhone components will make a huge dent in the market for stolen iPhones, though it introduces another barrier to DIY repairs  —  Apple’s latest theft-prevention measure went live for beta testers yesterday: Activation Lock for iPhone components.

  • TriflingToad@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I’m fine with this as long as they make good quality replacement parts. Not forcing repair shops to really try to scrub down a 50¢ sensor for an hour that detects when a MacBook is closed because there is no way to get a replacement 1st party or 3rd party

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      2 months ago

      The problem is that you cannot use old devices for spare parts anymore and must buy and register everything from apple.

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    2 months ago

    What’s the barrier to DIY repair?

    It is because people can’t buy stolen parts anymore?

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      Third-party parts: You are limited to parts acknowledged by apple. They will be more expensive for no reason and you will therefore be less inclined to repair your own device.

      Artificial rarity:
      They will be more rare and therefore you will be less inclined to repair.

      Rare and overworked repair centers:
      There will be a limited selection of repair stores, potentially entirely limited to the “genius bars” because of hurdles apple puts out and therefore you will be less inclined to repair.

      Also additional point-of-failure:
      Phones fail more often because every single part now has additional complexity.

      On the other side the additional security against stealing:
      Assumed, until a pairing software is stolen from an apple store, until people figure out how to read and fake this, or until people find ways to circumvent this in an unforeseen way.

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        2 months ago

        That is some seriously gish gallop. Nothing you’ve said is based on reality.

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            2 months ago

            It reads a lot like an LLM. I think it could be re-written into a cohesive flowing argument rather than disparate bullet points.

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              You think the other guy’s critique of my comment being “not based in reality” while giving not the slightest clue about their own thinking is because the bullet point style makes it look like an LLM?

              The bullet points make the multiple arguments easily seperatable in case of discussions, so I like them. They stay.

              • Hawk@lemmynsfw.com
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                2 months ago

                You don’t have to edit your message, nobody is suggesting that. It is, however, terse and unclear.

                I really like the book “Style: Lessons in Clarity and Grace” by Williams [1], you should check it out if you have time. It has a lot of good advice that is easy to apply.

                See Also Elements of Style by EB White [^2].


                1. ISBN: 0-321-89868-0 ↩︎

                • KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  Do you mean “The Elements Of Style” by William Strunk Jr? The style guide for formal grammar from 1959 (newest version from 2005)? If not, do you have an IBAN for me?

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      In the past, Apple has locked components to the phone by requiring proprietary pairing software to enable the use of these parts that only Apple technicians can access. This means that Apple gets a cut of any repairs and prevents you from doing repairs on your own for some components.

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    2 months ago

    Why not just lock out the serial numbers for parts from phones that have been reported as stolen?

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    While annoying from a right to repair perspective, I do think this will be a good thing overall. There is a whole industry for snatching phones and getting them turned into parts.

    In my city, go to the sketchy grocery stores and there are machines that you can just put a phone in and get cash for it. Pretty much no questions asked. Crackheads and tweakers on main street will smatch a thousand dollar phone out of someone hands so they can get $100 so someone can sell all the parts for a few hundred. I feel a pang of anger every time I see someone using one of those machines.

    It’s kind of a simular to how there is an underworld for cadaleidic converters. I guess the government can try to make laws trying to somehow regulate used phone parts, but I’m not sure how that’d actually be effective.

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    How about lowering the cost to prevent stealing? No way in hell an iphone cost 1200 eur to make. Plus since they make “the best hardware and software” everyone will want one and this will increase pressure on competitors to improve their products aswell.

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    Good. The benefit outweighs the cost by a huge margin.

    You might see a few butt-hurts nerd-raging over self-repair, but the problem associated with worldwide stolen phones and Frankenstein iPhone units is a much bigger issue than a few insulated incels wanting to self-repair their iPhones.

    No one is getting stabbed in a subway station over self-repair.

    (And that’s all based on the assumption it may impact self-repair, it’s still in beta)