• topartinno@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I don’t understand the power of trump over this guy. Isn’t he richer than trump? Didn’t trump posted a derogatory tweet about him saying something like “he’ll kneel if I’ve asked”

    Also lol at MaTRiX

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      If Trump cancels EV subsidies or pressures NASA to stop bankrolling SpaceX, Musk is basically fucked.

      That is why Trump said that.

      As with most giant corporations, if the government stopped heavily subsidizing them in many direct and many more indirect ways, they would basically collapse under their own incompetence quite quickly.

      Its truly funny to watch libertarian types pretend they built their empires from the ground up, when the truth is that they basically always started from a very privileged background, more or less did shady things bordering on or actually being fraud, got some of their parent’s or parent’s friends to invest, and then grew further from massive government aid of one kind or another.

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      Trump is just a tool like himself, but trump is a favorite of much richer than him putin.

      BTW, Elon publicly showed off behavior when there were those boys caught up in the cave, but he really did a massive switch right in the middle of 2020 where Tesla stock got an unexplained price spike. It feels like foreign governments put some money there. I’m wondering if the bonus he got recently was getting that money out.

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        Lol, it was not unexplained. They’d gotten over the model 3 problems looming over the company and were starting to bring in very high profits per car as well as having profitable quarters. Once that happened, that also made entry into the s&p500 a possibility which if happens, typically also drives the stock price up as billions of *(dollars of) shares get bought up for ETFs and removed from circulation due to being held longer and not traded.

        It was obvious to anyone watching it that something was going to happen IF the model 3 was a success and they became profitable. The risk was were they going to pull it off, and there was legitimately a point where they almost didn’t.

        As soon as those crazy high margins dropped off years later, the stock came down hard.

        Edit: they’d also been getting credit rating increases prior to this, which was a lead up to the S&P500 inclusion, which were bullish signals.

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          Model 3 was already being produced and was successful before the pandemic.

          I remember the explanation given at the time the stock price jumped by the analysis was large order placed by Hertz (which was fresh after decorating bankruptcy).

          That explanation made no sense to me.

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            “How close was Tesla from bankruptcy when bringing the Model 3 to mass production?” asked Twitter follower “Zain”.

            “Closest we got was about a month. The Model 3 ramp was extreme stress & pain for a long time — from mid 2017 to mid 2019. Production & logistics hell,” said Musk.

            Like I said, by 2020 it was going well and turning high profits. And then everything else I said adding further onto it. Hertz was a catalyst, but all of what i said above was what was actually going on.