So, my parents are pretty religious so I have to to fucking Bible study or some shit. Apparently homosexuality is immoral. Immoral my ass. With no authority whatsoever I can say FUCK RELIGON. Catholicism is bullshit.
Basically they were talking about “sexual immorality” started pressing them to provide detail. They rambled about how gay sex is immoral. And topped it off with “we should accept them still” yes Simon you daft bastard, you totally meant that last bullshit. I’m so tired of us being seen as abominations
I say this out of love and a shared experience so 🐻 with me:
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Start taking school immensely seriously. Literally live to get all your homework and assignments done on time and done well.
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Start really focusing on future goals and plans. Short mindedness will turn into long term depression and stagnation.
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Start going to your college counselor at school and trying to figure out what you’re good at plus what makes money.
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Stop worrying about dating. The idea of finding a highschool sweetheart is basically almost fantasy. Statistically speaking, you will not talk to, remember the names of, or miss the majority of people you spent time with in high school.
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College is a great place to make connections and start over. Look to college as something to strive towards. I cannot stress this enough: pick a major that makes money or has a very flexible way to fit into different jobs.
About me: I got my bachelors in veterinary science and worked with animals in research, and once I had experience I could start applying to jobs that made more money using the skills I gained from research. I am bisexual and grew up in a baptist church and am gay married for 4 years. No one in my family knows. They think I live with a roommate who works with me. It’s not worth diving into a depressive attitude over things you can’t control; your goal should be to make your life better in spite of those things you can’t control.
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I hear that loud and clear. I was so amazed when a gay friend of mine became catholic because his boyfriend was. I was like “WTF, this should totally be the other way around. What do Catholics have to offer homosexuals??”
If I had to go to bible study, I would probably ask everybody to cite every reference. I’d probably buy a hard copy of the skeptics annotated bible.
I hear you!
There’s a good exception to that rule though, the satanic temple (https://thesatanictemple.com/)! They’re doing wonders using religion to push actual good values, they’re mission is rather nice:
“The Mission Of The Satanic Temple Is To Encourage Benevolence And Empathy, Reject Tyrannical Authority, Advocate Practical Common Sense, Oppose Injustice, And Undertake Noble Pursuits.”
Homosexuality isn’t immoral there… just conisder the huge banner right in the middle of their site. :)
They’re a nice counter weight to the “regular” religions really.
Stay strong, I’m a queer former-catholic, and it gets better as you get older.
Well. I guess I have you good advice a few days ago. Hope you’re safe.
I’d suggest laying low until you graduate. Only date same sex in private.
Once you move out for college, your parents can’t control you.
I’m safe physically but mentally it gets worse every day. I’m just praying to a false god and hoping something happens. I’m only dating same sex in private. Hell only person that knows my bf exists is my therapist. And that’s getting worse. Can I open up? Don’t want to burden you
Just tell them that God made gay people so they could marry and adopt orphans and babies who otherwise would have been aborted. See how that flies.
Christian Logic:
- All-knowing, all-powerful God, all-good God creates humans.
- Since he knows everything, he’ll know if someone turns out to be gay
- He creates them anyway
- He sends them to hell for it
- But they could totally get redemption if they become something other than how they were made, and only commit the Christian-allowable sins (like divorce and greed), but not the icky homosexual one
100% - I didn’t realise I was bi for the longest time because of Catholicism. It gets better once you’re away from it all
Just tired of this goddam faith. Know its all basically bs but the propaganda runs so deep in me
With time and distance it will fade. I’m not at all like I was when younger, young me would be shocked and appalled at the worldviews I hold now.
The funny thing is, if you study the history of various religions throughout history, is that when religions have these dogmas they have them to their own detriment. People often have a place or even need for metaphysics and spirituality but reject religions because they have an “all or nothing” approach to them, at least officially.
That said, many people accept their religious texts to be metaphorical and not literal, so even though there’s homophobia in Abraham’s texts for example, they go “yeah, but that’s the characters of the story expressing their homophobia, not the book telling me to be homophobic”.
Sorry this was a bit rambling but I genuinely find it sad that religious institutions of the modern era are so thoroughly out of touch yet also seemingly impossible to dismantle, even though at one point many of these religions were subversive, persecuted, and radical and they dismantled previous religions.
Shouldn’t the ancient European pagan religions still have held on in that case? The Romans were willing to bend their religion in whatever direction to fit the cults of their neighbours and conquered people into their pantheon. They even tried to refit Jupiter into Abraham’s God. I think it died out because it was too lax.
Same thing happened with Buddhism in India imo. Hinduism and Islam are significantly more “all or nothing”, but that also made these religions more dominant than Buddhism and made the religion pretty disappear in India at least.
