• Rive@kbin.social
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    If you are really enjoying simping for a neo-liberal protofascist dictatorship, then stop calling yourself a “Marxist”

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      rather simp for someone opposing nato expansion than for a neonazi puppet regime staffed by people handpicked by the CIA. I swear you liberals refuse on purpose to understand that in the grand scheme of things the action of a “bad guy” can still be beneficial.

      Russia isn’t conquering the world anytime soon. So what would you rather have? a more multipolar world where russia has a relatively safe and solid position after showing that it won’t be bullied into submission by nato (with the whole world watching), or a world where russia is balkanized into several statelets without the political, economic or military strength to resist capitalist infiltration?

      We saw what happened last time russia got defeated. We lost a bastion of socialism, we saw tens of millions impoverished while a few capitalits dismantled everything that the USSR had built, and the whole thing ushered 40 years of hegemonic atlantist domination.

      So yeah, i am rooting for the “neoliberal protofascist dictatorship”. There is a reason why literally nobody in the global south sanctioned Russia. 75% of the planet is reasoning the same way i am.

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        id rather countries dont invade other countries because they felt ‘bullied into submission’ over said countries existing

        id also rather tankies stop pretending to have any kind of moral conviction or interest in some greater good or world peace behind their support of protofascist dictatorships invading other countries

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          id rather countries dont invade other countries

          So you don’t count Iraq, Iran, Yemen, good part of South America, Palestina, almost whole of Africa as countries and people or else you would be agains all western powers too?

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            can you cite the specific quote where i proclaimed my support for western powers invading iraq, iran, yemen, a good part of south america, palestina and almost the whole of africa

            is this deflection so people stop talking about russia doing the things youre supposedly against, or is having an issue with something because i have moral convictions as opposed to because the wrong team is doing it just incomprehensible

            very illustrative of my point either way, thank you for your comment

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        I swear you liberals refuse on purpose to understand that in the grand scheme of things the action of a “bad guy” can still be beneficial.

        Please tell me the benefits of running a genocidal war of aggresion for anyone that isn’t Putin.

        Russia isn’t conquering the world anytime soon. So what would you rather have? a more multipolar world where russia has a relatively safe and solid position after showing that it won’t be bullied into submission by nato (with the whole world watching), or a world where russia is balkanized into several statelets without the political, economic or military strength to resist capitalist infiltration?

        The “bullying into submission” is a paranoid fabrication of an increasingly unhinged fascist regime. Ukraine had no intention of joining NATO until this war, and now as a result of this fiasco even Finland has decided to join. And your usage of this particular phrase shows that this whole affair is Russia throwing a temper tantrum at its irrelevancy on the global stage. And if Russia is indeed balkanized into statelets (hopefully not, we don’t need even more nuclear quasi-states) it will be the fault of the guy currently pissing himself in a bunker near Kremlin.

        We saw what happened last time russia got defeated. We lost a bastion of socialism, we saw tens of millions impoverished while a few capitalits dismantled everything that the USSR had built, and the whole thing ushered 40 years of hegemonic atlantist domination.

        Once again, tankie, Russia is waging a war of aggresion. All they have to do to prevent their defeat is to turn their tanks around and go back to Moscow. But that would mean the surefire end of strongman politics and the fall of Putin, so gadflies such as yourself have to regurgitate propaganda. And lamenting the loss of USSSR, imao, the country that was so prosperous that it a wall had to be built in order to stop people from escaping it. Truly a workers paradise. Perhaps 80 years of economical mismanagement and political repression was responsible for its collapse, and not invisible NATO gremlins with sledgehammers.

        So yeah, i am rooting for the “neoliberal protofascist dictatorship”. There is a reason why literally nobody in the global south sanctioned Russia. 75% of the planet is reasoning the same way i am.

        The global South has neither the economical leverage, nor the political will to impose sanctions. They are staying away from this because they gain nothing from it.

        Please stick to posting on lemmygrad, you are embarrasing yourself outside of your echo-chamber.

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        So what would you rather have? a more multipolar world where russia has a relatively safe and solid position after showing that it won’t be bullied into submission by nato (with the whole world watching), or a world where russia is balkanized into several statelets without the political, economic or military strength to resist capitalist infiltration?

        The 2nd one

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        We lost a bastion of socialism

        No you don’t get it, the USSR had red fascism and was secretly capitalist, the only way to build socialism is to support NATO expansion and back the US in the coming war against China for Taiwan.

        Once all AES countries are bombed back to the stone age the Western left will finally rise up and demand… more social democracy!