• ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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      Plaintiff Brown not only lost a $50,000 a year gig as an electrician’s assistant, he also “became estranged from his father, who required him to leave the Brown residence,” the suit records.

      “Get your racist ass the fuck out of my house.” Gotta love it.

      Do these people ever just stop for a moment and ask themselves why people react with such disgust when their views are exposed?

      It’s particularly weird because most (all?) of the racists I’ve known in my life are constantly looking around for other people that share their views by making dog-whistle comments (or explicitly racist comments for that matter). Like, they’re never content to just keep their racism to themselves and are perpetually looking for affirmation from others - if you need that much approval from others, why not adopt views that aren’t so abhorrent?

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        They’re confused, because the approval that’s showered on them from 4chan or truth social or wherever is not reflected in reality, where there aren’t (normally) random collections of racists running around.

        A sort of example: I have an old 4wd that sort of has a cult following. I can tell people online that I have a Suzuki Samurai, and there will be people online who know what that is. But in the real world? I have the only one in my city. It’s weird and unusual. There are adults who don’t remember when they were everywhere, there are adults who have never seen one, and of course, there are adults who don’t even care.

        It’s like that with racist assholes. They spend time online thinking that their hobby (being a shithead) is normal and acceptable, then they go out in public, and try to be a racist asshole around their parents, or employers, or the general public, and they forget that their views are not normal.

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      Props to the dad for telling him to fuck off. Usually people learn this sort of ugly behavior from their family. This just seems extra sad that homeboy went out and got this way on his own

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        Again, downvoter is a shit-heel. Go fuck yourself. I see that you’ve peppered your discontent with being shown how wretched your views are many times over, but I’ll resist spamming this entire thread as a kindness to normal people who find this bullshit repugnant. Suck my fucking dick.

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      To some of these people the fact that they are rejected by most people just confirms how s have corrupted modern society and how awesome and special they are for being one of the chosen greats to see through it.

      They mainline confirmation bias as if it is cheap heroin. Everything reinforces their world view.

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        Nazism was the worst thing that ever happened to Germany, and these folks want it to happen here too.

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      Dad, you just don’t understand how brainwashed you are with contagious wokeness! The white race is being persecuted and is dying. You need to wake up!


      If you really, really think you’re right and everyone else is wrong, then everyone’s disgust is simply misplaced. They’ll come around. By force, if necessary.

      Pick some crime you abhor. Now imagine 90% of people thought it was OK. That’s how they see the world. “There’s a war going on that everyone refuses to see, and the white race is losing it.” They don’t care how abhorrent you think they are because they are on the “right side”. They are the “freedom fighters”.

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      I’ve asked my parents a number of times whether or not it ever gives them pause knowing that they vote exactly the same way as literal, flag waving nazis. They never answer. At this point, I think I’m just mistakenly ingratiating them into the false idea that nazi ideology “must not be that bad.”

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      Isn’t it funny how nothing is ever enough for these entitled Trump supporters? $107,000 a year and this shithead is still going to risk such great privilege. It’s why we should have never tolerated any of it at all.

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      “You facilitated cause and effect! How dare you? I blame youuuuu and the rest of the librulz!!”

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      To the one person who downvoted this comment (as of this comment), you’re a wretched little worm.

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    Hope the lawsuit exposes them more. It should be 100% illegal to be anonymous to be part of a domestic terrorist groups our a hate group like this. Do what Germany does with nazis.

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      As an attorney, I would absolutely love to have subpoena and discovery power against right wing loons. I’m surprised they sued in the first place.

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        Since Patriot Front itself as an organization is not party to the suit how much can reasonably be gotten from them that wasn’t in the leak? And I assume they’ve all been sanitizing their electronic devices and destroying anything remotely incriminating leading up to this lawsuit. Probably even distancing themselves from Patriot Front itself.

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      Heard from a friend; Just as real champagne only comes from France, only facists from Germany can be called Nazis. All others a simply sparkling facists.

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      It should be 100% illegal to be anonymous to be part of a domestic terrorist groups our a hate group like this.

      Now, define “domestic terrorist group” and “hate group” and do so in such a way that someone explicitly looking to attack the causes you believe in can’t manage to count people you support in either of those groups. Because that’s the hard part.

      Also the bit where you have to throw out the 1st Amendment - freedom of speech that doesn’t apply to even wildly unpopular ideas isn’t actually freedom of speech because only unpopular ideas ever need protecting and exactly how far into unpopular, hated, reviled and abhorrent ideas you have to go before things become illegal is exactly how strong those freedoms are. Henry Louis Mencken once wrote, “The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.”

      Just imagine a hard right fundie christian conservative judge getting to rule whether or not a group falls under the definitions you give, and they’ll rule it accurately for any hard and fast cases but also will use any flexibility you give against you.

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      Not to undercut you, but a study of German police and such recently found there are a LOT of Nazis gaining power…

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      Do what Germany does with Nazis

      What do you think we do with Nazis?

      edit: not sure why this is sitting at -1 right now, germany barely does anything against Nazis on a state level. In fact they support them and allow them to grow with barely any hinderance. Check out the NSU Murders, their relationship with the office for constitutional protection (Verfassungschutz) and their reaction and prosecution of the perpetrators. Bonus if you look at Germanys handling of far right groups and people online, in the military and in the police. Extra-credit is if you look how they treat leftist and progressive photojournalists and activists. Extrajudicial searches and wiretapping, smear campaigns, etc.

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      Germany is all talk. They try to PR that they’re so anti fascist and pro freedom, but the numbers don’t lie. Germany only cares about money

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    To the tune of “if you’re happy and you know it, clap your hands”

    If you’re a Nazi and you’re fired, It’s your fault 👏👏

    If you’re a Nazi and you’re fired, It’s your fault 👏👏

    You were spotted in the mob, Now you’ve lost your fucking job.

    If you’re a Nazi and you’re fired, It’s your fault 👏👏

    Edit for spacing

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      You were spotted in the mob, Now you’ve lost your fucking job.

      If you’re a Nazi and you’re fired, It’s your fault 👏👏

      Absolutely nailed the cadence, well done

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    The lawsuit hinges on unwelcome public identification. Ironically, the parties here sue in their own names, filing in federal district court in Washington state and creating a public record of what the suit terms their “unpopular opinions.” By their own identification, they are:

    Names listed in the article

    They’re not sending their best and brightest, folks

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      I agree these people are bad, but if you’re on the left at a protest, hide your face also. It’s not worth exposing your identity to potential employers or the police. Hiding your identity isn’t just a fascist thing. Everyone should be doing it.

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        I understand that there are cameras everywhere now and that some of my views could be held against me by asshole bigots, but I have nothing to hide about my brand of politics. I will state them proudly because I believe they are just.

        Now, if the argument is that fascists might dox and harass or harm me or my loved ones, then I might consider it. But I’m not influential in any movements so I don’t consider myself a target.

        ETA: Oh snap, he’s the one who leaked the 400GB torrent of internal files. I’ve had that on a permanent seed. Always lifts my spirits when I spot any activity on it. You can find the torrent with a quick search if you weren’t already aware of it. I’ve got gigabit fiber, so feel free to grab a copy and help expose these shitheads.

        ETA2: I did a quick search for a GoFundMe for this guy’s legal expenses and found none. If I start one, do folks think there will be significant interest on the Left?

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        When anarchists and tankies are dressed that way at protests, it isn’t possible to tell whose side they are on. Are they there for civil rights, or are they right wingers (or even undercover cops?)

        I also don’t buy the argument you guys make good protection at protests. Against who? The cops? Every person who goes to a civil rights protest knows the history, they know the risks, and they go anyway.

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          Anarchists and tankies should not be grouped together.

          Yes, protection from the cops, and yes everyone knows the risks. Because they know the risks, they should take precautions. They should know cops will target them, so they shouldn’t willingly give up their identity.

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            You guys are the protection from cops? Brother, they dress up like you to throw bricks through windows as excuse to go after the rest of us.

            Now you want us dress like you so that the media can then take the cops side when the fighting starts?

            You are not our protection and we are not your cover.

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              Now you want us dress like you so that the media can then take the cops side…

              When have they needed an excuse? I’m not saying everyone needs to be dressed in black block or anything, but don’t just give away anonymity for no reason. They’ll abuse your self-righteous attitude and it won’t protect you.

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                The more of us willing to drop the anonymous organizing, the safer it becomes for those of us who aren’t anonymous.

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    “Yes, we believe Hitler was right and we want to exterminate every race other than us so that our white children can fulfill their white destinies… But we don’t want people to know our names. They might get mad.”

    Fuck all of these bigots.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The suit decries how the left-wing activist conned Patriot Front into thinking he was a fellow traveler, “lying about his background and values,” only to expose its members through photography, secret recordings, and a massive computer hack.

    The suit pulls back the curtain, for the first time, on how 400 gigabytes of Patriot Front data came to be exposed by the whistleblower group Denial of Distributed Secrets, in conjunction with the media collective Unicorn Riot in early 2022.

    With this alleged hack, “Capito was able to download private chats and intercept video links” later posted in a data dump by DDoSecrets, the suit contends, and publicized by Unicorn Riot.

    This leaked material showcased — among other rancid behavior — videos of Patriot Front members defacing murals that celebrate racial justice, burning LGBTQ pride flags in the woods, and thowing up Roman salutes and shouting “Sieg fucking Heil” when they thought they were off-camera.

    And the group is infamous for menacing flash-mob tactics, in which shouting members march in a uniform of khakis and blue polo shirts — obscuring their identities with white face gaiters, baseball caps and sunglasses.

    Five members of the group, including James Johnson, were recently convicted of “conspiracy to riot” at the 2022 Pride festival Coeur d’Alene, Idaho — where they were intercepted by FBI agents before they could descend on the celebrants.


    I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      secret recordings

      If any of those were in CA, or any party being recorded was in CA at the time they’d have grounds to sue over that alone. CA is unique about recording laws in that according to CA where the recording was actually done is irrelevant, if any party is in CA, CA law applies. Not sure what recording consent laws look like elsewhere in the PNW.

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    It casts him as a 3-D-printed “ghost gun” enthusiast, a practitioner of the martial art of Krav Maga, a seasoned lock picker, and perhaps even “immune” to pepper spray.

    They couldn’t make him sound cooler if they tried

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    What’s also funny is that capito is italian for “i understood.” Like, he understood this would happen, and it was kind of the point