• shipwreck [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    Volcanic hot lava conspiracy take:

    Ask yourself this, why did the debate happen so early in June? And most of all, why did Biden accept the debate, when he has every excuse to say that a debate with Trump is not worth the time?

    People say the Democrats and the Biden team are just stupid enough to shoot themselves in the foot. But I don’t think so. Everyone knew Biden was going to screw up, and yet they went ahead with it. How could this be?

    Hypothesis: this is a Deep State (or whichever faction is in charge) “pre-cleaning” operation. Something big is about to go down, and they need to remove as much obstruction as possible because whatever it is about to happen, is going to be complete madness.

    And it has to happen before November. There is a good chance that Biden loses to Trump, and they might lose this opportunity forever since Trump is too unpredictable or not ideologically committed to their grand plan like Biden. Waiting four more years might not bode well for a declining empire, it would have been too late by then.

    With increasing reports of Ukraine acquiring large quantity of radiological materials enough to create “dirty bombs”, with an intensification of US biological warfare activity reported in Africa, with the US sending record troops presence into Jordan, with a war imminent with Lebanon and even Iran, with the US ramping up tension in the South China Sea in the Philippines, many pieces are being moved simultaneously, but we simply don’t know what it is all about.

    All dissenters thus have to be purged months ahead to ensure that the operation will be met with minimal obstruction. I believe this goes beyond the electoral campaign, it is instead a sinister plan for one big final harvest for the empire while Biden is still in the office.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Everyone knew Biden was going to screw up, and yet they went ahead with it. How could this be?

      They didn’t know. Biden was a lot more lucid in prior appearances, like the state of the union speech. They genuinely didn’t know it would go like this.

      Biden and his team wanted the debate, the idea was to remind the people how unhinged Trump was early enough.

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      if i were the deep state ‘cleaning house’ why would i hitch my wagon to the walking corpse instead of hand-picking a better successor? if the natsec ghouls are in the drivers seat, they’d be not worried about trump (idk why you assume he’d be incompatible) or if they were, they’d be ditching biden.

      overall the debate was just farce and hubris, no need to add behind the scenes designs to what can be elegantly explained from incompetence & arrogance

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        Find me a candidate who’s willing to start a war with Russia, Iran and China all at the same time while sinking the European economy.

        Even Bush and Obama would think twice on committing to any of the above. The post-2009 financial crash means that the empire is more desperate than ever. Biden is the perfect candidate with a long history of pushing for US military aggression, a true ideologue for American supremacy.

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          3 months ago

          any democrat that hasn’t stepped out of the pro-genocide line on gaza is suitable. the strategic problem with Biden is that he can die right in the middle of your plans, a younger person can still be pliable without that risk

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        In fairness, the term “deep state” used to be a term referring to unelected bureaucrats in the various government agencies that persisted between admins and carried out the day-to-day operations of empire. Then Trump adopted it and it became a calling card for MAGA cranks.

        FWIW I don’t agree with the other poster, imo this is just more dem incompetence like we saw in 2016 and 2020, and the deep state is disorganized and their “goals” are more or less the same as those of every establishment politician (including Trump).

    • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Given that the DNC proposed the early debate, and scheduled it for a time in the evening when Biden would be sundowning, they have to have expected and wanted the result. Presumably so their replacement for him would have enough time to solidify things before the convention so that it can be properly stage-managed. But then why haven’t they replaced him yet?

      I don’t think it’s the MIIC; I still think it has to be DNC-internal politics.