Friends dragged me to Inside Out 2 and it was saccharine dogshit that mostly made me think of my awkward moments in high school sports. To its credit it was only 90 minutes long. Anyway Zizek’s idea would have been much more unhinged and interesting.
Yeah! And Lilo and Stitch sucked because it didn’t talk about the materialist reasons for the rise of the nazis!
touch grass, comrades.
Bullying a popular disney movie
Lilo and Stitch actually does lightly touch on colonialism fyi.
Not like a super deep deconstruction but it’s acknowledged.
It had more to say but those scenes were cut. Also the climax of the movie used to be a 747 flying through a city, but then 9/11 happened and they changed it to a space ship and mountains.
A spaceship makes sense at least. There’s a bunch of aliens and shit
Pretty sure this is just a roundabout way to insult Palestinians
Yeah “those insane Palestinian children driven to mindless violence by their emotions”
We already know he’s a racist, if that movie was actually made he’d be chirping about the “savagery of the Arab mind” or some shit
I read it differently, it seems to me that Zizek is coming from a place of empathy and trying to humanize the Palestinian cause.
Most people are woefully uninformed, and they naturally ask “Why would Hamas do Oct 7th?” The answer often comes in the form of pro-Israeli propaganda: they’re antisemitic, they’re animals, they have been taught to hate.
The best way to break through this propaganda is by showing what the Palestinian people have suffered over the past 70 years, and especially the last 16 years. When people learn of the apartheid conditions, the brutal blockade, the Great March of Return, etc, many come to the conclusion that they too would be driven to violence if they were treated in such a horrific and unjust manner.
Anyway I might be wrong about Zizek, but I would totally pay to see this movie.
Zizek lets half of his real views slip when he talks about “psychic breakdown and suicidal acts of violence.”
We know from Zizek’s condemnations of Hamas and his giving Israel a right to defend itself (per his words) that he not only offers up the view that Palestinian resistance is essentially hopeless squirming, that the “Palestinian plight” is sad and heartbreaking and yet there is nothing that can be done but gaze into an idealized future divorced from all conditions (this is Stephen Gowans’ wonderful view), but Palestinian resistance is both suicidal and evil, and whatever liberal weaseling within this we get it’s no different than Nietzsche’s eternal slavery.
The only truly just and correct thing for this Palestinian child to do in Zizek’s view is die in silence or wait to be saved by some Western country (whether it’s the US through his Kautskyite vision of the future of Western military intervention or NATO the peacekeepers, who knows!). He only plays the empathetic mouthpiece so that he can use the oppression of Palestinians to make some idiotic point about a mundane Disney movie. This is what Zizek does, he is worthless.
Yeah no, Zizek is no fan of Palestinians or Arabs in general, usually he coaches his racism in ambiguous and vague phraseology like he’s doing here, but in the past (especially the last year) he’s made clear his racial (or “cultural” as he would put it) antipathy to anyone with a skin color darker then uncooked pizza dough
He believes Palestinians are brainwashed savages with no right to resistance or even complaint that isn’t coached in acknowledging western cultural supremacy, those are his views on culture and race in general, he’s just spitting acid at the annoying ethnics who’s “savagery” would according to him make for more entertaining television
No critical support to zizek.
what about diacritical support to žižek?
Oh oh now do a Ukrainian child in the Donbas who has been getting shelled since 2015! Do that one next! Or is that too complicated and nuanced for you Zizek?
I didn’t watch the movie but I don’t think these very normal conflicting emotions often escalate to a point of madness lol
It’s just being human idk
He’s right about this one.
I might not go as far as to say that every piece of media produced has to display the worst horrors currently going on but I share the annoyance with characters always being materially safe upper middle class people.
The default “normal person whose material conditions warrants no explanation” is always way richer than the actual average person. They all live ins big houses, drive nice cars, go to nice restaurants and go on nice vacations. The backdrop on which an unrelated story is told is never somebody who lives in a place that is a bit too small for the household or someone who can’t afford to fix their car or someone who doesn’t work a phoney baloney job in a corporate office.
hes right
No he’s not really.
I do agree most Pixar movies are “saccharine dogshit”. Also glad this community is back to being able to criticize things for being saccharine, instead of arguing anyone who disliked forced wholesomeness is a cynical bazinga brain who had their minds melted by prestige TV.
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I simply disagree with Zizek that it would make for a good movie. I think a better way to portray psychic breakdown and suicidal acts of violence is with a 1st person perspective where the person cannot detach their hallucinations from reality. I think Riot did it with Tryndamere to haunting brilliance. I’d probably have a small child follow a fairy around in a storybook landscape. It leads him provide food by stealing. Sometimes he thinks his fairy enchantment makes him clairvoyant, but in reality he’s moving people away from Zionist retaliation while he is unable to grasp how humans could treat him so cruelly as a child. Eventually he grows up to lead a team to resistance but all his imagination filled with fairies turns to crippling PTSD as the conflict gets the better of his mind that no longer has the spiritual cushion necessary to keep him well through all the strife. When he gets got, they bury him as a hero with his coloring book from when he was a child. Sell some wings alongside shirts with fairies on it to support Palestine and call it a day. There’s your propaganda that finally turns the world against America and its twisted MIC.
Edit: the fairies are butterflies and he is blocking out the death of his baby sister who he remembers seeing in a field of butterflies. Therefore it’s her spirit guiding him through his life. Also the adult Palestinian is played by Ryan Gosling. The butterfly spirit is voiced by Chris Pratt
Doesn’t inside out take place in San Francisco?
Yeah and Riley is originally from Minnesota. Also, I’m not sure her home is in a “wealthy suburb” in San Francisco even.
Her home is in SanFran proper and anyone who owns property within SanFran city limits is by definition wealthy.
Alright mb, never been.
san francisco is a wealthy suburb of los angeles
Death to America
I wanted post about this dumbass movie but I was tired to do that.
One thing I do wanna say is that I do not wanna hear about how kids would love to become supreme court justice rarbg when they grow up. Ever.
Overall it’s a fine inoffensive kid’s movie with a basic, at worst harmless message about not letting your fears get the best of you and staying true to yourself while also accepting change/growing. Your one example is a very very small part of the movie, and at that the most political/divisive thing in it.
I refushe (schniff) to watch any filmsch (schniff), and I tink this film is schuper cool. (schniff)
