Don’t fall for it. Conservatives have been beating the It’s a republic, not a democracy for many years now. They are too dumb to realize representative democracy is a form of democracy. We should have a direct democracy in electing the President. And I have no problem with Representatives voting on all the other stuff. Then again, a lot of times that means shit doesn’t even come up for a vote because the controlling party will say some bullshit like “We don’t have the votes to vote on it”. I’m not sure how to fix that, aside from electing better reps, but humans sure like the incumbent, no matter how ineffectual they have been.
Not that what you say is incorrect, but you should be very wary of believing that a party’s name is a good indicator for its actual policies. I know the US only has two parties with very generic names, but in other countries with more parties, names can be deceiving.
Hey, asshole. Why don’t YOU change MY mind?! Cuz the last time I checked there was only one party that is willing to get in bed with antisemites, LGBTQ hate groups, fascists, white supremacists, and…uh…oh yeah, rich billionaires.
Seems to me one party is a little more desperate to control the general population, and it certainly looks like that party doesn’t care who they have to get into bed with to accomplish their nightmarish goals.
So why don’t you do the hard work for once and YOU change MY mind?
I certainly am in favor of a popular vote for president. The only reason anyone would want the president elected by a convoluted system whereby our votes don’t directly count toward who we want to represent us all is because the system is currently benefiting their side disproportionately. The only reasons the electoral college exists at this point are to give some states an outsized weight on the end result and to override the will of the people in the form of faithless electors. But electors could’ve prevented the disastrous Trump presidency and chose not to, so if they’re going to rubber stamp an unpopular and unqualified candidate, they are not fulfilling their original purpose.
The only way I’m in favor of keeping the electoral college is if we uncap the size of the House of Representatives (which I think we should do anyway). The House no longer represents the makeup of the entire American public because it’s now unnaturally skewed conservative and each representative represents over 700,000 constituents. If we’d kept expanding the House about the same rate we used to (and should), we’d have almost 700 representatives. This system is increasingly unfair and undemocratic.
Athenian democracy didn’t even exist in Athens. Representation has always been part of democracy. They’re not mutually exclusive or even distinct. Democratic governance requires government. Stop fucking this particular chicken.
A privileged few, elected by a similarly privileged citizenry, wielded political authority through a monopoly on the force of violence. Ancient Athens for the poor, for women, and for non-Greeks was a dictatorship.
I think you’re confusing “democrats” with “democrat politicians”. You’re right that politicians on both sides are beholden to big money first and foremost.
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Popular vote is what the most number of people want. The idea that popular vote is bad is anti-democratic.
Don’t fall for it. Conservatives have been beating the It’s a republic, not a democracy for many years now. They are too dumb to realize representative democracy is a form of democracy. We should have a direct democracy in electing the President. And I have no problem with Representatives voting on all the other stuff. Then again, a lot of times that means shit doesn’t even come up for a vote because the controlling party will say some bullshit like “We don’t have the votes to vote on it”. I’m not sure how to fix that, aside from electing better reps, but humans sure like the incumbent, no matter how ineffectual they have been.
It’s literally impossible to change your mind, because you are living in a delusion or your own making.
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Not that what you say is incorrect, but you should be very wary of believing that a party’s name is a good indicator for its actual policies. I know the US only has two parties with very generic names, but in other countries with more parties, names can be deceiving.
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Yeah, my comment was as much for anyone reading your comment that might draw the wrong conclusions.
Cheers! 👍
You mean to tell me the Rhinoceros Party wasn’t really about rhinoceroses‽
Noooo, I thought that was one of the good ones! 🤣
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Hey, asshole. Why don’t YOU change MY mind?! Cuz the last time I checked there was only one party that is willing to get in bed with antisemites, LGBTQ hate groups, fascists, white supremacists, and…uh…oh yeah, rich billionaires.
Seems to me one party is a little more desperate to control the general population, and it certainly looks like that party doesn’t care who they have to get into bed with to accomplish their nightmarish goals.
So why don’t you do the hard work for once and YOU change MY mind?
Oooh! Oooooh! ☝🏻🤓 Le both sides bad!! LMAO I’M SO EDUCATED 🤣🤣🤣
I certainly am in favor of a popular vote for president. The only reason anyone would want the president elected by a convoluted system whereby our votes don’t directly count toward who we want to represent us all is because the system is currently benefiting their side disproportionately. The only reasons the electoral college exists at this point are to give some states an outsized weight on the end result and to override the will of the people in the form of faithless electors. But electors could’ve prevented the disastrous Trump presidency and chose not to, so if they’re going to rubber stamp an unpopular and unqualified candidate, they are not fulfilling their original purpose.
The only way I’m in favor of keeping the electoral college is if we uncap the size of the House of Representatives (which I think we should do anyway). The House no longer represents the makeup of the entire American public because it’s now unnaturally skewed conservative and each representative represents over 700,000 constituents. If we’d kept expanding the House about the same rate we used to (and should), we’d have almost 700 representatives. This system is increasingly unfair and undemocratic.
Okay, Crowder. Don’t you have a podcast to blather on?
Athenian democracy didn’t even exist in Athens. Representation has always been part of democracy. They’re not mutually exclusive or even distinct. Democratic governance requires government. Stop fucking this particular chicken.
Democratic governance for whom?
A privileged few, elected by a similarly privileged citizenry, wielded political authority through a monopoly on the force of violence. Ancient Athens for the poor, for women, and for non-Greeks was a dictatorship.
I think you’re confusing “democrats” with “democrat politicians”. You’re right that politicians on both sides are beholden to big money first and foremost.
We cannot change that which you do not possess.
That’s nice, but we’re talking about the GOP right now.
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