America has more independent voters than Democrats or Republicans. Are they changing American politics?

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    5 months ago

    It’s so interesting watching the BoTh SiDeS warriors shrink. It used to be full of them on posts like this, chanting their mantra at anyone who points out similarities or any articles that mentions people are pissed at us politics in general. Now, if they do show up, it’s just one or two.

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      5 months ago

      Are they shrinking? I get downvoted to hell for saying “<x> was bad when Trump did it, it’s bad when Biden does it”.

      I expect this will continue until the election, at which point they will blame the left for telling them that Biden needs to stop doing bad things and start helping people if he wants to be elected.

      And then they will pretend to care about concentration camps for migrants, anti-LGBT laws, women’s rights, police brutality, Palestinians, etc again, for about 3 years, at which point they will tell us that actually those things make a candidate unelectable until the primary is over, and then go back to pretending that they stand for those things until election day.

      Then if the dem candidate wins, the president will simply be powerless to do anything, because they only got 51% or wait no they needed a supermajority or wait no they needed a supermajority plus enough to stop the villain of the week, or wait no they needed some SCOTUS to die off, or wait no they needed the parliamentarian, etc etc.

      Repeat until republicans are in power again.

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        And then they will pretend to care about concentration camps for migrants, anti-LGBT laws, women’s rights, police brutality, Palestinians,

        Are you seriously trying to claim Democrats don’t care about those things? What utter nonsense.

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          Yes, if the democrats did care about these things, they would have emptied the concentration camps instead of writing the most draconian anti-immigration bill in recent history, then overriding congress when it didn’t pass, defunded the police instead of advising states to divert covid funds to them, stopped giving Israel the bombs to carry out a genocide, and stacked the court during the 2 years they had a majority and could have done so, instead of changing the rules so they couldn’t.

          You don’t get to campaign on maintaining Roe V Wade, then do nothing to prevent its overturn, and claim you cared about Roe v Wade.

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            5 months ago

            So by “Democrats,” you mean “members of the Democratic party who have been elected in their districts or states, not necessarily because all of the Democrats in that state wanted them to run,” and not “registered Democrats,” which is what this is about.

            Or are you under the bizarre impression that America is a direct democracy?

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                5 months ago

                So you’re changing the subject from what OP posted about.

                If you had made that clear in the first place, I wouldn’t have wasted my time.

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                  5 months ago

                  Are you being obtuse or do you really not understand how the democrats failing to represent the will of their voters connects to registered democrats leaving the party?

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                    Again, if you had simply made that connection at the beginning, I wouldn’t have wasted my time.

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          5 months ago

          Seriously. Biden’s bombs have literally been blowing up anti-LGBTQ+ people almost every day for the last 10 months. You don’t get much more pro-LGBTQ+ than that!