Seriously miserable people. Lighten up!

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    I’ve heard that comedy is when you suddenly upend expectations in a shocking or unexpected way, ie the punchline. And since fash like things to be predictable, maybe they just can’t do humor bc they don’t like that sudden surprise? So they just yell slurs to be smug in their sadism?

  • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    I’m reminded of this line from a Folding Ideas critique of the truly awful Nostalgia Critic satire of The Wall:

    Doug wants to be a filmmaker, he wants to make art, but he can’t, because he’s a fundamentally incurious person who isn’t much interested in what other people think or feel and all his ideas boil down to ‘what if Batman met Mario?’

  • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    right wingers have no sense of humour

    Not true!

    They have “[slur]! Hurr Durr!”, “Are you triggered???!!!” and “I identify as an attack helicopter! Hurr Durr!” That’s three jokes for you, right there.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    Because the average right winger is someone who has ambient bigotry installed into their brains through a lifetime of not needing to care. A standup comedian doing a conservative act has gone off the deep end and allowed a combination of their own insecurities and racial panic to cloud their brains.

    Every public right-wing media figure seems to have a whole list of weird emotional baggage they’ve never dealt with. Like they’ll be in the closet, or have daddy issues, or they got bullied in high school. And they never let that stuff go or went to therapy

    Comedy for them is the idea that people they regard as lesser could ever be equal to them

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      7 months ago

      I’ve bothered in the past to punch up some conservative jokes so they’d still be hateful and conservative but also y’know, function as jokes to see if its possible. Totally is, in form you can construct half decent conservative jokes but I don’t think you can if you’re a conservative, doing good mocking humor still requires the ability to put yourself in another’s shoes to an extent, you’ve gotta be able to understand what you’re shitting on to do it well, and they don’t have that.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        7 months ago

        Oh yes, it’s definitely possible. But it’s not possible for conservative comedians, because their brains are swiss cheese. Conservatives don’t respect comedians, they only respect extremely wealthy white men, or soldiers, or car dealership owners. Any conservative comedian is going to have internal self-hatred built into it.

        I’ve seen a few chuds doing open mike or small shows at a local comedy venue I go to sometimes. They’re always like that. It’s always like a one-man surreal theater where you watch a guy grapple with emotional trauma he’s externalized as hatred of women or gay people or whatever. It’s exactly like you said, they can’t see the perspective of anyone else because they’re wrapped in a bubble of self-loathing they’re refusing to acknowledge

  • PaulSmackage [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    There’s a Chapo bit from a long time ago where they put it down to chuds getting too angry before the punchline. Like, the set up of the joke will be bog standard, but then they’ll pivot to whatever culture war bullshit is occupying their mind at the moment.

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    7 months ago

    they are the kind of people that do racism in the style of a knock knock joke, and then blame cancel culture in communist hollywood.

  • CloutAtlas [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    A lack of empathy, imagination and also understanding of politics. They take a skewed version of reality (that they almost definitely saw secondhand in sensationalized or outright fabricated sources), find out what enrages them (blue haired, art major, LGBT, communist, radlib, coastal elite, anarchist, etc) and mashes them together. It’s how you get the famous JBP “Postmodern Neomarxists” despite PoMo and Marxism being incompatible, they’re 2 types of students that he dislikes that he has fused together in his leaky, smooth brain. The homunculus of a “liberal leftist” will then also contain traits that aren’t necessarily from a same sort of person, it’s a smorgasbord of everything they dislike, irrespective of whether it creates a coherent person or not. Daily Wire, Prager et al will invent a blue haired liberal communist who’s a barista but also a coastal elite who identifies as an anarchist and has a bust of Lenin in her home, and is in an interracial relationship. And said liberal communist will suffer misfortune and that would be the joke. And that’s the “good” stuff. Sometimes the joke is that Crowder dresses up with a rice farmer hat, buck teeth and do a Chinese accent and that’s just the whole joke, or an “Indian Gangster” which is just him saying AAVE in an Indian accent (this is a real bit, but don’t look it up, it’s terrible). This is what reactionaries generally have on offer.

    Even the reactionary creators of South Park have done enough LSD/Magic Mushrooms over the years to develop a base level of empathy, so they manage to pump out some decent takes every season or so. They can create a half accurate facsimile of whatever they’re making fun of that way. But also, even if they’re making fun of X liberal thing, ultimately the one who suffers is Cartman, who doesn’t give a single shit about X and end up failing. In the gender neutral bathroom episode, the villain (unlike most right wing media) is not the trans person or the PC establishment, but it’s Cartman, who starts pretending to be trans to get a private bathroom all for himself. Similarly, in the Tourette Syndrome episode, some people with TS are the surface level jokes, but the antagonist is actively Cartman, who pretends to have Tourette to get away with swearing at school. Still problematic episode, but imagine if Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder tried to write it. Cartman would be the protagonist. This is what reactionaries would make with an ounce of empathy for the marginalized or “the other”. It’s exceedingly rare.

    The centrist liberals do this, too, making fun of right wingers as if they’re just inbred hicks and not like small business owning suburbanites. But they normally overlap and therefore get overshadowed by actually good content, so they’re not as prominent.

    Finally, here’s a Doctor Mister Cody video addressing similar stuff for an hour