This won’t end well…
Not because of Linux or Windows, but because India’s government is one of the most corrupt in the world, and everyone is just going to get bribed into saying “this is great” and it’ll get implemented without any flaws being addressed
That would be their problem.
but because India’s government is one of the most corrupt in the world
This same country also has a space organization that is well-respected all around the world. If we can launch rockets, we sure as hell can build a secure Linux based distro lol.
Half the mobile rom teams are Indian devs
We have some serious manpower for cheap, that’s smart, development/employment focused, and intuitive
No doubt about it. Indian devs all over open source. But do you really think they will recruit the FOSS crew when contracting time comes lol
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I want to make my own thing with their DE
stuff based on opensuse as a base(leap for workstation, tumbleweed for consumer and enterprise for enterprise users, see how it shapes out
This same country also has a space organization that is well-respected all around the world
Lol, sure…
Other countries don’t pay India lip service because it’s a large 3rd world country poised to become the newest sweatshop of the developed world…
It’s because they respect a space program who retroactively changes their goals and tells their uneducated masses that everything was a resounding success.
Just like “any day now” for the last 30 years they are going to become a world leader.
My country once successfully launched 104 satellites with a single rocket. And this guy really believes we can’t build a secure linux distro because we’re nothing more than a “3rd world country poised to become the newest sweatshop of the developed world”. Wow, okay dude.
Hey, another example of India doing something that makes no logical sense just for the PR and then gullible people thinking that just because no one else has done it, no one else could have!
Man, you all are making this easy
no logical sense except the indigenous technology advancements that make sure india doesn’t need to rely on others for crucial operations (US denying gps info to india comes to mind) along with the money that they earn from private satellite launches, yes.
i wonder why this is so easy for you, surely it isn’t because you are conveniently ignoring all the positives of a space program.
If they were doing it for real reasons…
They’d have launched a few big ones.
Not just throwing a bunch of junk into space to beat a record no one else is trying to beat.
Although, to be honest I thought no one would be dumb enough to fall for the propaganda and think any of the stuff people keep bringing up in this thread was worth bragging about.
But I can admit when I’m wrong.
what reasons are real enough for you?
is a navigation system real enough? are weather satellites helping with disasters and saving lives real enough? is telecommunications real enough? is the millions they earn from private satellites real enough?
i’m sorry all of this falls under propaganda for you. for me personally, these are all real enough to warrant a space program.
But I can admit when I’m wrong
doesn’t look like it
Hey, another example of India doing something that makes no logical sense just for the PR
Only 2 of those 104 satellites were Indian. Rest all were foreign satellites. In fact 96 of them were from the USA. But yeah, obviously all these foreign satellites satellites serve no purpose whatsoever. Obviously they were launched just so ISRO could score some PR points 😂
There is absolutely nothing impressive about launching 104 satellites in one go. What would be truly impressive is building a linux distro, amirite?
Man, you all are making this easy
Insert wojak crying behind mask meme
Well… No idea if US landed on the moon but the videos are sus AF
Countries spinning PR is tale as old as time
Yeah, the whole moon race was propaganda…
The main reason America went was so USSR couldn’t say they were first.
Everyone’s known this for like 50 years now…
Someone is really getting the fucks for basically parroting the usual narrative of the deep states lol.
India’s space program is doing more than fine.
Not really…
They use the same propaganda tactics as Russia. No matter what the result is or what they said before any mission starts, they declare everything means they succeded and that their now a world super power.
This has little to do with government officials. Though very less information is available, I believe the military will use its own personnel or private contractors.
Oh yeah, far right authoritarian governments have nothing to do with their militaries…
The article says this will be “based on Ubuntu” but it will probably actually just be Ubuntu with custom defaults, pre-installed software, and maybe repositories.
This just makes sense in my view. The cost relative to the number of machines they must deploy will be miniscule. If they do not mess with the core system too much, they can outsource almost all the admin and expertise to Canonical in terms of security and packaging. People saying this will blow up. Why? It does not sound like they are really creating a full distro from scratch. Is Ubuntu not viable?
In terms of why crating a custom version instead of just using actual Ubuntu. Again, the cost of customizing a distro can be dramatically less than making even simple configurations on every system after the fact. They can standardize what the desktop will look like and set key defaults. They can choose what applications are installed by default. They can remove applications from the repository that they do not want to be installed. The can ensure that localization is done well, etc.
I remember when Ubuntu was just Debian with custom defaults, pre-installed software, and their own repositories. Basically what every new distro is in the beginning.
And yeah creating dpkg packages isn’t really all that difficult. Don’t know why people are saying this will be a disaster. There’s a lot of technically proficient people in India that could handle doing QA, and putting a dpkg on a server that gets automatically picked up by all the various systems that need it. Hell, they could develop their own applications and package them up and distribute them around much easier on a Linux system than a Windows system.
As an Indian… You mean we can outsource stuff to others? :D
LOL
“home grown” Ubuntu spin, got it
Chalega, it’s a step in the right direction
Very cool! Always good to see more countries get closer to embracing FOSS. Really helps with the collaborative benefits that FOSS can have, plus allows for organizations to have more control in their digital destinies instead of simply being customers.
Hope the best for the project!
‘home-grown’
Well, it was the headline in a National newspaper and I just quoted it.
‘home-grown’ like that Miley Cyrus distro.
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This is 100% a nationalism thing. They want to be able to say we make our own operating system. That’s it. It’s going to be a disaster when they inevitably fuck up because they are doing g it for the wrong reasons.
How is controlling the package repo for your gov a bad thing?
Because they aren’t doing it to control the package repo, they are doing it to score nationalism points.
Guess what, nationalism and security go together for all the right reasons.
Finally something done right by India (just my rough impression, I remember them like banning VLC and then encrypted apps, idk exactly what they do.)
Yeah, they banned encrypted apps thinking that only terrorists require encrypted messaging.
I think they are just stupid lol
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Wait till fascist BJP learns about Whatsapp.
Hopefully they pull it off for real and it will not get bogged down by bureaucracy and red tapes.
Fingers crossed!
Another fríggin’ Ubuntu distro. Can’t somebody just commit to Debian instead… please?
Meanwhile, in NixOS land:
I don’t think NixOS “hates” Docker, in fact Nix has its own tools to build Docker images. There are some examples at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/build-support/docker/examples.nix
Ultra based India
They’re not that based, they’re banning encryption
Not based anymore 😔👊
A lot of schools and colleges in Kerala (Indian State) use Ubuntu. Kids are taught how to use software like GIMP and Audacity in schools. It has become part of the syllabus in public schools.
12 th standard students have to do maths practical in GeoGebra.
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Kerala has a very good relationship with Free Software Foundation. Here is a video of Stallman speaking in the inauguration function of “Free software foundation of India” in Kerala broadcasted on State television https://youtu.be/ZnlslvE2A9U
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/ZnlslvE2A9U
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My main concern is support and delay b/w security patches the OS will introduce. I’m making a wild guess, but I think they should have lot older hardware devices and from performance pov, they should benefit given latest Windows are not that great on older devices and older win versions have already reached EOL.
If they do get it right, they probably need to retrain their staff to be able to use other apps like Libre Office and more.
Interesting because to airlines, using a Linux-based RTOS is a major security issue to the point where most airlines use homegrown RTOS solutions. But this isn’t the first national government switching to Linux for operations I’d argue are equally if not much more sensitive.
I did not know linux-based RTOS is a security issue for airlines, do tell me why. And ofcourse it will take a toll on the military to maintain the OS. As before this I assume they used enterprise version of windows, so the burden was share between microsoft and the military.
Whatever the reason is, it probably has very little to do with the described use case since RTOS is a very different use case to desktop copmuters. I didn’t even know that people were making an RTOS that is based on the linux kernel. You could never bring the device support the linux kernel has to the RTOS world.
This video from the linux foundation mentions some of the supposed concerns for Linux in aerospace: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=skaj70Qo3FA&t=1228s&pp=ygUbZGViYXRpbmcgbGludXggaW4gYWVyb3NwYWNl
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=skaj70Qo3FA&
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
Can they do it? Yes. Can they do it with a reasonable level of support for many different desktop hardware so it’s cheap to implement? Probably, though it won’t be as comprehensive as windows. Can they get a 1:1 replacement for windows that has the same level of security as windows? No, because many national governments collaborate on windows security. But! They’ll be safe-ish from NSA back doors in windows (if you think there are any)
The likelihood that windows doesn’t have a back door for the US government is irrelevant.
No windows user can guarantee every part of their OS is clean.
Linux users have the advantage of Open Source.
If you run Linux, you can audit the code. Can’t do that for windows.
For governments, big businesses, etc windows is already open source
Nice… So anyone with any dignity won’t tolerate being spied on. Only cattle and sheep get subjected to this abuse. Checks out.
Switched to Linux due to being treated like cattle by windows.
Ok! I don’t care, that has nothing to do with this post!
U hurt?
You’re description of stripping dignity from the cattle and sheep turned me on, is all
Haha. Alright
Many national governments collaborate on Linux security as well.
