• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    591 month ago

    Finger safety devices are fucking awesome. The one I was working with a few years ago, if the blade encounters something conductive like your finger, an electro-magnet throws a block of aluminum in to the saw blade and stops it. Near instantly. Finger saved. It costs, idk, 100$ to reset, but that’s a damn sight less than losing a finger. Like you might be nicked but you’re probably not even going to need a bandaid. Just so damn cool, and one of the biggest dangers in a wood shop becomes vastly, vastly safer to work with.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      291 month ago

      I don’t know; I’ve always felt this kind of tech, while it has its upsides, tends to come with some severe downsides.

      How are you ever going to justify the use of a table saw in a horror movie ever again?

      • @SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net
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        1 month ago

        If this isn’t already a bit in a Scream-like horror comedy it should be. Or maybe the killer comes at someone with a chainsaw, but they’re wearing one of those pairs of anti-chainsaw pants.

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          41 month ago

          I feel like Wish Upon has a scene where Audrey from Twin Peaks has a bunch of fake-out accidental deaths in a kitchen until she finally gets got.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        101 month ago

        Just have a character mention in the first act they can’t do a project because they’re having issues with the table saw.

        It’s how the strangers justified killing somebody by putting their head in an open microwave and turning it on, which would require multiple safety devices to fail.

      • What_Religion_R_They [none/use name]
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        71 month ago

        How are you ever going to justify the use of a table saw in a horror movie ever again?

        the saw is owned by a guy who really hates the government patent trolls

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        41 month ago

        The victim seems totally calm until.they notice it’s a tablesaw from prior to the regulatory date. Cause you fucking know you won’t have to update your saws as an employer let alone a private owner. Which will probably also be a thing that if it becomes necessary then it will only apply to new saws and anyone thst already had an industrial saw, which is generally built to last or be serviced like a ship.of theseus where as far as regulations are concerned it’s the same saw they bought in the 70s, you won’t see it unless some saws get sabbed

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      241 month ago

      Yea I was going to say I’m positive she doesn’t actually care about it and it’s just her excuse to oppose it but it is bullshit to require something that’s protected intellectual property. That’s just government establishing a monopoly.

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    461 month ago

    raise costs by hundreds of dollars

    maybe I’m misunderstanding but this person is introducing legislation to save producers money on the scale of hundreds of dollars?

    • radiofreeval [any]
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      371 month ago

      Sawstops cost like 900 dollars a unit whereas an unsafe Milwaukee or DeWalt costs like 500. If you trigger the stop on a sawstop it runs you need to spend 100 dollars and two minutes on a new brake, which is less than hospital bills by a long margin. I don’t think this bill saves anyone money whatsoever.

      • WayeeCool [comrade/them]
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        Nvm, it turns out SawStop has agreed to open their patent up to the rest of the industry royalty free should such a law ever be passed.

        https://www.sawstop.com/news/sawstop-to-dedicate-key-u-s-patent-to-the-public-upon-the-effective-date-of-a-rule-requiring-safety-technology-on-all-table-saws/

        The real issue with the law is SawStop holds an exclusive patent on the concept of power tools detecting fingers and automatically stopping. They have enforced their IP right ruthlessly and as such hold a monopoly that allows them to charge a $900 premium.

        So I guess the problem is the US government mandating the technology without first seizing the patent and opening it up to competitors. It would be like the US government mandating airbags or seatbelts without the patent holders opening the IP up to the entire industry. Iirc Volvo holds most of the patents for a lot of automotive safety technologies but has always allowed the rest of the industry to use the tech royalty free in order to promote industry wide adoption.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        221 month ago

        More than this, the tech will become an open standard on the effective date of the mandate, meaning anyone can manufacture them for free. The current cost vector is just licensing, your new saw will be safe and still like $500.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      121 month ago

      Hey now, as a consumer I have the right to choose that the people who made my product have their fingers sliced off; I’ll never meet them, I’ll never personally see it happen, but it’s important to me to know it happened.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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    261 month ago

    Actually this is kinda based…

    Consumers choice should be protected; personally I won’t buy any wooden stuff unless I know the work to make it severed fingers.

    I also support protection for child labor rights; I won’t be happy unless I know my wooden stuff was anointed with the blood of the innocent.

  • radiofreeval [any]
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    251 month ago

    I mean it would be great if sawstop didn’t have a monopoly but most people I know refuse to work on anything that isn’t a sawstop.

    • fraksken
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      161 month ago

      If you do it all at the same time, you’re not operating the saw correctly

  • plinky [he/him]
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    131 month ago

    sawstop company rn: - hey, boeing, could you recommend a couple of operators? yeah, just one job for now