• Vegasimov@reddthat.com
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    The name dropping in Oppenheimer is intense. I recognised a load of them from studying maths and the characters were deriding maths for not being physics. Crazy that they could have such contributions to a field they didn’t even respect

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      I just saw the movie last night and felt the exact same way. I said the first 45 minutes were basically just eye candy for nerds lol. Going through all the famed scientists of that era whom we grew up revering.

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      Maths isn’t science but just a tool used in proper science…

      A disputable opinion but one that was widespread back then (see: no Nobel Prize for mathematics for example…)

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      Haven’t seen the film yet so maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying comparing physics to math in that way is like comparing apples to the molecules that make up apples. Physics is applied mathematics used to attempt to explain the physical workings of the universe. You can’t have physics with no math.

      And this is coming from an engineer, who thinks we’re superior to both!

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      That’s one of the risks of kicking off a war.

      Close to the end of the war, Japan – which had made pretty extensive use of biological weapons against China – was working on also hitting the US with biological weapons. We were far enough away that it would have been difficult, but where they had been able to employ biologicals, in Asia, they did.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_PX

      Operation PX, also known as Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night, was a planned Japanese military attack on civilians in the United States using biological weapons, devised during World War II. The proposal was for Imperial Japanese Navy submarines to launch seaplanes that would deliver weaponized bubonic plague, developed by Unit 731 of the Imperial Japanese Army, to the West Coast of the United States.

      That being said, Japan wasn’t even the expected target of the Manhattan Project. Germany would have been, but was defeated via conventional force prior to the project reaching completion.

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        “Unlike the people” and their school-aged kids, and their babies, and the old grandmas. Don’t let them off they hook, they could have taken down a military dictatorship that dominated East Asia if they felt like it.

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          I always find it fascinating that people even ignore the simple fact that American soldiers were more than capable of war crimes themselves.

          Disregarding their conquered nations, disregarding the millions of soldiers that would die, far, far more civilians would have died in the invasion under equally horrible conditions.

          Starvation, gangrape, summary execution, dying trapped in rubble from an artillery strike, deaths due to extreme shortages of all kinds, all these horrors and more awaited the Japanese citizenry if the Allies invaded. It is just incontrovertible fact that the bombs lessened human suffering by an incomprehensible degree.

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          Tbf, they were ready to surrender after the first bomb but it wasn’t unconditional. They wanted protection for their emperor. The US wanted to drop the second bomb to make Russia think we had more. This is an open secret. The second bombing has nothing to do with stopping Japan.

          And pretending like everyone has the power to end a war is horrifyingly childish. It’s actually scary how naive and simple your viewpoint is when taken into context the monstrosity you’re defending.

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              I’m not condoning the Japanese. I’m just saying there was likely not a need to drop a second nuclear bomb in this world. You seem insistent that not condoning countless deaths of Japanese people seems to be apologizing for them. You aren’t actually arguing for necessity of the actions in your posts but the necessity of believing in punishment of them. Just as I don’t think random murders of US Americans would be a justified if it stopped the wars in Afghanistan which is exactly what your logic dictates would make it ok. You basically justified terrorism and events like 9/11 dumbass.

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        I’m just worried that instead of ending second waorld war, we started a new one.
        *looks into the camera*
        A cold war.