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      1 year ago

      “Unlike the people” and their school-aged kids, and their babies, and the old grandmas. Don’t let them off they hook, they could have taken down a military dictatorship that dominated East Asia if they felt like it.

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        1 year ago

        I always find it fascinating that people even ignore the simple fact that American soldiers were more than capable of war crimes themselves.

        Disregarding their conquered nations, disregarding the millions of soldiers that would die, far, far more civilians would have died in the invasion under equally horrible conditions.

        Starvation, gangrape, summary execution, dying trapped in rubble from an artillery strike, deaths due to extreme shortages of all kinds, all these horrors and more awaited the Japanese citizenry if the Allies invaded. It is just incontrovertible fact that the bombs lessened human suffering by an incomprehensible degree.

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        Tbf, they were ready to surrender after the first bomb but it wasn’t unconditional. They wanted protection for their emperor. The US wanted to drop the second bomb to make Russia think we had more. This is an open secret. The second bombing has nothing to do with stopping Japan.

        And pretending like everyone has the power to end a war is horrifyingly childish. It’s actually scary how naive and simple your viewpoint is when taken into context the monstrosity you’re defending.

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            I’m not condoning the Japanese. I’m just saying there was likely not a need to drop a second nuclear bomb in this world. You seem insistent that not condoning countless deaths of Japanese people seems to be apologizing for them. You aren’t actually arguing for necessity of the actions in your posts but the necessity of believing in punishment of them. Just as I don’t think random murders of US Americans would be a justified if it stopped the wars in Afghanistan which is exactly what your logic dictates would make it ok. You basically justified terrorism and events like 9/11 dumbass.