I main Firefox but, want a Chromium browser for Android/Windows that I can use occasionally.

What are your preferred choices?

Edit: okay I tested out a lot of your suggestions and found Vivaldi to by my favourite so far :) thanks y’all

          • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]
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            211 months ago

            To quote the linked build doc:

            The recommended way to build ungoogled-chromium is by consulting the repository for your supported platform (links here).

            So if I have any build errors, I’ll probably just be told to go install the package for my repo. If not, I’ll probably just waste the dev’s time with some idiosyncratic issue with my own machine or toolchain.

            Now I’m on Debian stable, so there have been a few programs I’ve compiled because the one in the Debian repo was too old or unsuitable for my purposes. But in general, I trust the Debian packagers not to do nefarious stuff with the files in their repo. I also trust the open-source community to collectively and loudly shit their pants if this trust even looks to be violated.

            Compiling from source requires non-trivial computer science knowledge, namely familiarity with the overall steps of how compilers translate human-readable code to executable binaries. Thankfully, most projects I’ve compiled have decent instructions where you just read the commands and drop them in, but some programs aren’t well-documented. Some compiles are harder than others. For example, Ardour requires an absolute shit-ton of dependencies. It’s a rather complex compilation. So far I’ve run into no dependency glitches, but considering it is a music software that needs near-realtime performance to be useful, you can probably understand why I’m paranoid about stability. How do I know that, a few years down the line, some of the dependencies will decide that I compiled it wrong and my recording session gets borked? For this reason, Ardour actually uses this as a selling point to buy copies of their software: you can compile it, but it absolutely sucks to do, and you can’t be sure that you did it correctly until it’s too late.

            Most people don’t actually understand how computers work. Sure we know how to use our desktop environment, but really we’re engaging with the abstraction that tool provides. Going into the console breaks that abstraction.

            So let’s say that I put you in front of a computer with your favorite desktop environment (you would have to pick one, or a window manager), but I don’t tell you what the actual operating system is. It could be anything, Linux, BSD, ReactOS (or Windows if we throw out the desktop somehow), TempleOS, anything. All the main apps like a browser, file explorer, settings GUI, office applications, have already been installed, as well as the applications you use. Do you think you could use this mystery computer? Probably, because you know how to use computers that follow the desktop metaphor.

            Most people who use computers are familiar with the desktop environment [1] and will therefore have a much easier time transitioning between systems who each use the desktop metaphor. Compiling programs from source exposes the user to details that unmask the complexity of their systems. For most users, this causes unnecessary anxiety that does nothing to help convince them that the operating system is accessible for general use.

            Now while I think there is a great deal of value in learning to compile from source and to do so in some cases… generally, I just can’t be arsed to do so. I’m fine delegating a modicum of trust to others because then I get to focus on the stuff I’m interested in. There’s a .deb file where I can install the program and move on with my life.

            [1] Those who aren’t, like young children, are likely familiar with at least smartphone GUI idioms. They will probably be more comfortable on a PC whose desktop resembles that of a smartphone.

            • @iloverocks@feddit.de
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              Good point but to be honest I just compile my stuff from source so that I can get the newest version of the software the security aspect is forms at leased a nice side benefit. In distros like Debian I can see the complications with the newer completed packages but with rolling release distros never experiencessed some problems with that.

  • @Blizzard@lemmy.zip
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    1711 months ago

    Vivaldi is awesome on Windows/Linux and peerless on Android.

    Not really a factor but rather a fun fact - I recently discovered they have a Mastodon instance, which can be of interest to lemmies.

    • @AndreTelevise@beehaw.org
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      511 months ago

      Vivaldi has a bunch of stuff I like - tab stacking, tiling, a functional sidebar that is actually useful, and full-on UI customization.

    • @RandallFlagg@lemm.ee
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      211 months ago

      I actually tried out Vivaldi for about a month before I went back to Firefox but I like it as well. I think it’s the best chromium based browser out there.

      • @o_oli@lemmy.world
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        211 months ago

        Yeah same. Well actually I’m using Firefox on desktop and Vivaldi on my phone (Android), since I love having desktop style tabs on mobile. The trend of having to press a button to open a tab browser really annoys me and although Firefox sort of addressed that with tab groups now, I think Vivaldi’s implementation is nicer.

    • @StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml
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      -511 months ago

      This, only correct answer, and the only correct source to make your decision off of. Any other opinions being tossed around are mostly speculation by people who probably don’t actually know that much about tracker prevention.

  • @IGuessICan@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1011 months ago

    If we all stop using firefox, then chromium has a complete monopoly. That’s dangerous with something as important as a web browser. Lets not forget that Chromium is sponsored/maintsined by Google.

    • N-E-NOP
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      711 months ago

      I have no intention of stopping my Firefox use. I just want an occasional Chromium browser

  • Lee Duna
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    411 months ago

    For desktop I use Ungoogled Chromium portable as a secondary browser, and DDG browser on Android

    • N-E-NOP
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      211 months ago

      I use Firefox on Android primarily but I occasionally want a Chromium alternative

  • Use Cromite on mobile. It’s a continuation of Bromite which has been maintained by one of the devs since bromite quit being updated a year or so ago. Previously it was called bromite-buildtools, but they just recently got a new name and logo.

  • @_pete_@lemmy.world
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    211 months ago

    If you want something a little different, try arc it doesn’t behave like pretty much any browser I’ve used but it’s certainly a unique take on it

    • Muddybulldog
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      511 months ago

      While ARC is interesting it is available for neither Android or Windows, which was OPs requirements.

    • @morrowind@lemmy.ml
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      111 months ago

      What does arc do different? It’s been very hyped up but I don’t see what it does that vivaldi already does not

      • @_pete_@lemmy.world
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        111 months ago

        It is very different:

        • Tabs are always vertical which is better for todays ultrawide monitors
        • You have the ability to pin tabs to the sidebar which means that whenever you’re on a particular site (not page!) they’re stored in the same place
        • Other tabs are ephemeral, they’re open for at most the 24 hours from when you use them, then they get cleaned away
        • There are separate workspaces; like swappable sidebars that you can use to - for example - keep work and personal tabs separate
        • The vast majority of commands (going to a tab, getting to settings plus loads more) are access via a Stoplight like global search control
        • You can “boost” a particular site and change its style sheet to be different colours - this can be handy if you’re a developer and need to be extra careful when working in a production environment.

        That’s just the stuff off the top of my head, there is probably more.

        • @morrowind@lemmy.ml
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          111 months ago

          I’m not sure what you mean by “boosting” a site, but vivaldi does have everything besides pinning sites.

          So I guess arc is a nice browser but not particularly new.