This article outlines an opinion that organizations either tried skills based hiring and reverted to degree required hiring because it was warranted, or they didn’t adapt their process in spite of executive vision.

Since this article is non industry specific, what are your observations or opinions of the technology sector? What about the general business sector?

Should first world employees of businesses be required to obtain degrees if they reasonably expect a business related job?

Do college experiences and academic rigor reveal higher achieving employees?

Is undergraduate education a minimum standard for a more enlightened society? Or a way to hold separation between classes of people and status?

Is a masters degree the new way to differentiate yourself where the undergrad degree was before?

Edit: multiple typos, I guess that’s proof that I should have done more college 😄

  • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This would make getting a job out of college SO MUCH HARDER. Companies would do everything the could to get existing employees in the workforce, for whom someone else has already paid off their loan.

    Much like cell phone carriers locking you into a contract, companies would try to force you to work for them for X number of years because they paid your loans. I suppose this could work similar to vesting, so it wouldn’t be impossible. But companies would still try very hard not to hire anyone with student loans. It would just benefit the wealthy people who don’t need them.

    • The_v@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Much easier to just raise business taxes by enough to pay for free education at all levels.

      Tax based upon the average education level required for the job in the industry. This would change them all to a skills based hiring system overnight.

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      4 months ago

      I guess the real answer is government subsidized college.

      Free college.

      An investment in the future through rigorous and accessible education.

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        4 months ago

        You know, when the concept of publicly funded education was proposed, it was considered revolutionary and not well supported by some, who didn’t like the idea of the costs.

        We currently have K-12 in US that’s publicly funded education. This idea would essentially just make that K-16.

        This video regarding education has always been one of my favorites: https://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_changing_education_paradigms

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      4 months ago

      Companies would do everything the could to get existing employees in the workforce

      I’m not disagreeing with you. I would submit that this is already true for other reasons. Speaking specifically of IT or INFOSEC fields, companies currently have extremely high expectations or experience requirements/desires.

      This has been a problem for the INFOSEC field where there’s a shortage, but companies don’t want to hire entry level candidates with little to no experience. They want reasoned, veteran INFOSEC practitioners, which there isn’t enough of.

      @SoylentBlake@lemm.ee

      generalized education requirement, above high school, that company should be required to pay off its employees student loans

      @TheRealKuni@lemmy.world

      Much like cell phone carriers locking you into a contract, companies would try to force you to work for them for X number of years because they paid your loans

      I like that you both brought this up. There’s a real life example of this in the US military. It’s a well known benefit/incentive for military service that they would fund your college education if you work for them long enough. You signed your service contract, but if you met that, you got your education for ‘free’ if you want to call it that. It’s a little different in you might be killed in a stupid political war along the way, but it shows that the idea is practical and can work.

      I guess if I had the choice of being hired at a really decent company and they would fund some highly sought after training as long as I gave them a reasonable number or years of employment with reasonable compensation, I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

      On the other had, the SyFi fan that I am, I could see a bit of a dystopian future where you have to belong to companies for a while to start off in life. If you consider that people now start off in massive student loan dept, the dystopian ownership is currently banks while people take up to 20+ years to repay student loans.

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        4 months ago

        Personally, I think education should be free to all, rich or poor, as its the summation of the human experience thus far.

        Or in other words, it’s our birthright

        No one should have the right or ability to paygate it, and that includes the state. The labs necessary should be publically funded because society would suffer more for having less physicists and chemists than an abundance of them, for reasons I hope are obvious.